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Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice?
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RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice?
I should probably point out that my view regarding the greek words for wine is not unique to me.

Did Jesus Drink wine or Grape Juice? And this includes some of the controversy about the use of the word "oinos" and how it was translated into "new wine" on some occasions when there was already a word explaining exactly that, and even going a little into the fact that trying to keep grapes from fermentation would be extremely impractical in the First Century AD. The more I look into the matter, the more convinced I become that the misguided assumption that "surely Jesus must not have drunk alcohol because alcohol causes a lot of destruction in its wake, therefore we hate it, therefore, Jesus couldn't have condoned drinking it, even if it's to be done strictly in moderation."

This is summed up in one of the comments:
Quote:I would say the Author wrote this article to justify his Wine (alcohol) drinking as most Christians like to do. If Jesus Drank fermented Wine,then he puts his stamp of approval on all the sorrow it brings.(Death,Breaks up the family,etc).Jesus gives life,not takes it. It makes no sense to say Jesus sipped the rotten fermented grape when the purity and life is in the fresh grape.(fruit of the vine)

His response:
Quote:You’re equating drinking with being a drunk and they are not the same. Just like sex, used in the proper context it’s a good thing but in the wrong context it’s a grave sin against the body and holy Spirit.

Also, grapes start fermenting in 12 hours or less and can complete fermentation in less than a week in many cheap wines. [N.B., the author does do some home brewing and points out from personal experience that sometimes fermentation can start in as few as two hours from breaking the skin, even without added yeast or sugars.] The only way to delay fermentation (ed. at least by the standards of the time) is by burying the juice in very deep holes to get the temp below 45 degrees….which is hard to do in hot climates. There is no historical or linguistic reason to believe that Jesus drank grape juice.

Also God commanded the Israelites to produce and tithe their wine… The fermented type in Hebrew.
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Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - July 30, 2020 at 7:17 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Foxaèr - July 30, 2020 at 7:19 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Gwaithmir - July 30, 2020 at 7:23 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - July 30, 2020 at 7:24 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by brewer - July 30, 2020 at 8:01 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Foxaèr - July 30, 2020 at 8:02 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by brewer - July 30, 2020 at 8:37 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by chimp3 - July 30, 2020 at 8:09 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Brian37 - July 30, 2020 at 5:05 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - July 30, 2020 at 5:45 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - July 30, 2020 at 7:16 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by AniKoferBo - August 1, 2020 at 8:20 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by no one - July 30, 2020 at 7:47 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Gnomey - July 30, 2020 at 11:53 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by ignoramus - July 31, 2020 at 12:37 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Ranjr - July 31, 2020 at 12:21 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Brian37 - July 31, 2020 at 11:36 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Brian37 - July 31, 2020 at 11:56 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Drich - July 31, 2020 at 4:11 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - July 31, 2020 at 6:39 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Drich - August 3, 2020 at 11:12 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - August 3, 2020 at 11:54 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Drich - August 4, 2020 at 1:07 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Drich - August 3, 2020 at 9:41 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by brewer - July 31, 2020 at 4:59 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - July 31, 2020 at 11:29 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - August 2, 2020 at 6:54 am
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by no one - August 2, 2020 at 5:53 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - August 2, 2020 at 5:59 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - August 4, 2020 at 3:54 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - October 24, 2020 at 4:05 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Nay_Sayer - October 24, 2020 at 4:24 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Fake Messiah - October 24, 2020 at 9:50 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - November 14, 2020 at 8:13 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Prycejosh1987 - November 16, 2020 at 3:08 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Dundee - November 26, 2020 at 8:37 pm
RE: Did Jesus drink wine or grape juice? - by Rev. Rye - November 26, 2020 at 10:18 pm

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