RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
December 18, 2020 at 4:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2020 at 4:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 18, 2020 at 3:31 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: You didn't get it, did you ? The idea of a supernatural agent accounting for natural evil is not mine, by the way, it's plantinga's famous solution to the logical problem of evil. So, as you see, your "routine dismissals" ignored a full argument of a professional philosopher, which you think isn't worth discussing. Stop ignoring arguments and don't let your ego get in the way next timeIsn't worth discussing with you, more accurately.
Pathetic.
Quote:Where did I ever claim I have moral authority, Wth are you talking about.?As above, most of this isn't going to be a productive discussion between us - your moral authority would be whatever moral authority you thought were true. If moral realism is false, then moral authority cannot be true. That's the claim that moral realism makes. That at least some moral statements are true.
Quote:And if a god actually exists, he has more access to facts than you do, and obviously gets them right. God's moral statements must be more accurate than ours, then, isn't it?
That's one of those strange assumptions that we make about gods, particularly in light of the contents of their magic books..but supposing a god did have more access to facts than I did, and moral realism were false - then that greater access to facts doesn't matter.
Assuming that a god had greater access to facts, and moral realism were true, then the moral authority is whatever set of facts a god defers to in it's moral assessment.
Gods are as useless and irrelevant to moral realism, the position that some moral statements are true, as demons are to earthqaukes - an absurdly childish expression of the limits of your own epistemology.
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