RE: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.
September 28, 2020 at 11:35 am
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 11:41 am by Greatest I am.)
(September 25, 2020 at 12:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(September 25, 2020 at 11:34 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Let's analogies.We're also evolved from fish. Laying aside the futility of pointing to other animals - sin would not be the thing that disturbs the peace, sin is the reason that we desire the thing that disturbs the peace.
We are evolved from a primate line. What in their troupes causes the most conflict and chaos? What disturbs the peace the most and causes the most evil?
Quote:I would say reproduction.Then the compulsion to mate, in your telling - right or wrong- , is sin. I really don't have anything to add here that I haven't already discussed. I don't think it's a good description of sin. Sin seems to be operative even when the desire to mate is not. Additionally, the compulsion to mate as sin leaves all mating creatures evil by default, which is going to be an even harder sell when we get into the specifics of this or that organism's reproduction. Whole lotta sinful grass out there filling the wind with evil seed.
It is also in most animal species.
We are no different.
Don't mess with a naturalist.
The compulsion to mate is not evil. It is natural. The competing is what creates the evil as a loser is created.
Even if you want to call it evil or a sin, it is necessary to our continuing existence. I small evil within a greater good must be seen as good as it is necessary.
Regards
DL
(September 25, 2020 at 1:04 pm)Sal Wrote: @Greatest I am please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that I control instinct any more I'm saying that choose when to sneeze.
Although some instincts have an overwhelming hold on our behavior, others do not have the same hold on my agency - I can choose when I piss given the urge (for as long I'm able to hold it in). I'd like a better grasp on this, from my POV, esoteric concept of sin.
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Also, some opinions on 2 things you mentioned about banning as per criminalization under the law and censorship struck me as counterproductive. Censoring people, in this case Christian theology, would just push it underground, unchallenged. Criminalization would have a similar effect.
If we are to not criminalize poor behavior, then we may as well scrap all laws.
When the vile mainstream religions who push homophobia and misogyny create so much harm to so many, to not outlaw it is immoral.
Any institutionalized discrimination without a just cause should be outlawed.
Regards
DL