RE: What will win the god wars? Faith, Fantasy, Facts, or God?
December 10, 2020 at 1:42 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2020 at 1:49 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yes, false or not is what ensuing discussions and debates will surround.
All of that would be meaningless, though, unless normative claims can be true or false.
You're insisting that religions aren't concerned about such and such in the face of direct evidence to the contrary...but.... as a rational person, you must know that rational concerns are concerning to any body of people, including a church. They could do better, I agree....but this agreement is premised on a course of universal right action. Better by what standard, and if this standard cannot be contended to be universal..is it a standard at all? A standard such that we could judge their success or their failure as anything more than a matter of opinion?
Personally, I think that the rule of harm and the rule of food are enough to resolve the vast majority of human moral dilemma. When someone gets some claim about what is wrong..but a claim about what should be right - I take the help and excuse the irrelevant claims. Irrelevant claims being true -or- false don't actually have an effect on primary concerns. Not logically, not practically.
All of that would be meaningless, though, unless normative claims can be true or false.
You're insisting that religions aren't concerned about such and such in the face of direct evidence to the contrary...but.... as a rational person, you must know that rational concerns are concerning to any body of people, including a church. They could do better, I agree....but this agreement is premised on a course of universal right action. Better by what standard, and if this standard cannot be contended to be universal..is it a standard at all? A standard such that we could judge their success or their failure as anything more than a matter of opinion?
Personally, I think that the rule of harm and the rule of food are enough to resolve the vast majority of human moral dilemma. When someone gets some claim about what is wrong..but a claim about what should be right - I take the help and excuse the irrelevant claims. Irrelevant claims being true -or- false don't actually have an effect on primary concerns. Not logically, not practically.
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