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[Serious] Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
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RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem
(February 6, 2021 at 11:32 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(February 6, 2021 at 10:13 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Setting a fire in an apartment building to try and kill people is a little more than arson. It's attempted murder, not to mention the actual murders that BLM supporters have committed. I'm sure the self identified Antifa and BLM supporters just set fire to buildings full of people because they're pyromaniacs or something.

It was done by the white supremacists who went to the protests to make damage.



I watched the video, and it doesn't mention the situation you quoted me on, where a fire was set in an apartment building where a mayor was staying. What's with the what-aboutism? Why can't you just admit that BLM supporters, Antifa, and right wing nutters all have their terrorists among them? Because you don't want 'your side' to look bad? People on all sides are fucked up and do fucked up things. Stop trying to pretend that's not the case.

And right wing terrorists killed 79 people in acts of terrorism in 8 years? That's actually pretty shocking. I thought the number was far, far higher than that, given that it's a country of 350 million people. Here's some what-aboutism for you to return the favour. Sometimes over 100 people are shot in a weekend in Chicago. Not 8 years. Two days. Of course every act of terrorism and every terrorist who kills is a despicable person and needs to be called out, but this is the thing that people are saying is going to lead to the destruction of America? Do you think there might be a bit of an overreaction going on here?

(February 7, 2021 at 12:09 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(February 6, 2021 at 12:13 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: The Oxford Dictionary calls terrorism “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”

Hmm.. so trying to burn down buildings full of people in the pursuit of political aims. Sounds like textbook terrorism to me. Is the Oxford dictionary wrong on this one? Why doesn't the US consider the Proud Boys to be a terrorist group if it's so beyond obvious? Why doesn't any other country on the planet other than mine consider them to be a terrorist group if they are clearly all terrorists? Iran considers atheists to be terrorists, but that doesn't make it so. It doesn't matter what political aims you have behind a terrorist action. As long as they are political aims. If an animal rights activist who thinks they're trying to improve the world for the better commits an act of violence in the pursuit of political aims, that's terrorism.

I don't think BLM, Antifa, Proud Boys, atheists, or animal rights activists should all be smeared as terrorists. If certain members of those groups happen to commit acts of violence in the pursuit of political aims, then it's fair game to call those specific people that.

That Oxford dictionary entry very loose and unjust; as a Muslim I saw the worse of such loose definitions and I know finally why they exist: to suck the blood out of any enemy with clear conscious.

Every movement of resistance includes violence against the man with the gun; a reminder is the Draft Riots of 1863 in New York:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

If the government is supporting violence against the civilians and protect it, then a revolt against that tyranny is not even close to terrorism. That what BLM did: white cops were massacring colored people, so colored people revolted.

But how about an organized white supremacist gang that broke into the Capitol to stop the elections after their boss lost fairly?

Trying to change the results of elections that they agreed to obey using the power of the gun is pure terrorism and attack on the state.

Ah, so you just have an entirely different definition of terrorism, so it turns out we are talking about two completely different things. That's fine. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Messages In This Thread
Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - January 16, 2021 at 12:31 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 16, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by brewer - January 16, 2021 at 1:09 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - January 16, 2021 at 1:47 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - January 16, 2021 at 5:35 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Brian37 - January 16, 2021 at 7:56 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 17, 2021 at 3:44 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 17, 2021 at 7:05 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Belacqua - January 17, 2021 at 6:12 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - January 22, 2021 at 5:52 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by no one - January 22, 2021 at 8:34 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Belacqua - February 4, 2021 at 1:16 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 4, 2021 at 8:25 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 4, 2021 at 10:17 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 4, 2021 at 11:15 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 5, 2021 at 10:15 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 5, 2021 at 10:57 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 6, 2021 at 2:58 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Brian37 - February 4, 2021 at 8:26 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 5, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Angrboda - February 5, 2021 at 12:48 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 6, 2021 at 12:16 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2021 at 12:57 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 7, 2021 at 12:09 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2021 at 11:32 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Irreligious Atheist - February 7, 2021 at 3:24 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by WinterHold - February 7, 2021 at 4:39 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Deesse23 - February 10, 2021 at 7:44 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 11, 2021 at 7:27 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 11, 2021 at 8:31 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by Foxaèr - February 13, 2021 at 10:00 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 16, 2021 at 3:14 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 17, 2021 at 11:50 am
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 17, 2021 at 5:02 pm
RE: Far-Right Extremism Is a Global Problem - by HappySkeptic - February 17, 2021 at 6:22 pm

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