(February 20, 2021 at 7:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(February 20, 2021 at 6:30 pm)brewer Wrote: Looks like it requires life to me. My take, consciousness requires a perceived experience which requires and engaged observer.
I've defended it to my satisfaction. Tell me what non living entity (that we know of at this time) has consciousness that you can provide concrete evidence for.
1. IIT predicts that even integrated systems as simple as photodiodes have a modicum of experience.
2. I take issue with your parenthetical statement "that we know of at this time." Presumably you feel the need to constrain the temporal requirements because the future looks promising. When it comes to machines and computers, things which are not formally defined as living, it is reasonable to predict the emergence of consciousness without a prerequisite of life. Computers already possess every other cognitive faculty ascribed to conscious beings (perception, attention, language, memory, etc.) without being alive.
I think we're discussing afterlife and consciousness. Now photodiodes??? Really??? (dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge)
I can't predict the future. And if machine conscious becomes a thing (which I doubt), the machine certainly acquired it from a prerequisite living thing.
"every other cognitive faculty"?? Huge stretch.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.