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Poll: If There Were a God, Would You be Angry with Him?
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Yes, because I believe natural evil exists & it ought not to.
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None of the above, I would only be angry if this God upheld the immoral proscriptions of the Old Testament.
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Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
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RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
(March 7, 2021 at 2:50 am)Seax Wrote:
(March 5, 2021 at 8:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So humans are not part of nature?

Boru

No, but humans (and other cognitively advanced animals) are capable of acting in unnatural ways.

By unnatural, I mean contrary to what is naturally advantageous. There are things that are completely impossible in nature, like a four sided triangle, and then there are things that are impossible in the long run because they are conflict with the laws of nature; because they are against the Will of God. This includes everything from the elements that rearly occur naturally and decay quickly, to behaviors or actions. Humans that act in ways contrary to what is naturally advantageous, that engage in pathological behavior, can be said to be acting unnaturally, and we are by no means the only species to engage in pathological behavior.

This is evil.

So, if evil doesn't exist in nature, and evil is the result of acting in way that are not naturally advantageous, then evil HAS to exist in nature.

Let's say that a volcano erupts and spews billions of tonnes of toxic gases and burning ash into the air. The resulting contamination kills millions of plants and animals, including some that filled unique and necessary environmental niches. The deaths of these organisms creates a cascade effect that causes even more widespread damage to the biosphere, eventually cutting off food, water and harbourage for hundreds more species. According to any common, sensible interpretation of the term, such an eruption would qualify as 'natural evil', since the volcano had no moral intent to cause harm.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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Messages In This Thread
Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 5, 2021 at 5:13 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 5, 2021 at 7:00 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 5, 2021 at 8:07 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 7, 2021 at 2:50 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 8, 2021 at 4:54 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 13, 2021 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by brewer - March 5, 2021 at 10:16 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 7, 2021 at 3:04 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 8, 2021 at 12:20 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 13, 2021 at 3:44 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by no one - March 14, 2021 at 8:13 pm
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 15, 2021 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 15, 2021 at 2:42 pm
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 15, 2021 at 2:44 pm
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 16, 2021 at 12:34 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 16, 2021 at 2:04 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 16, 2021 at 2:59 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 16, 2021 at 3:24 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 16, 2021 at 3:40 am
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil - by Seax - March 16, 2021 at 4:32 am

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