(March 16, 2021 at 1:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(March 16, 2021 at 12:34 am)Seax Wrote: That is the more conservative interpretation, but many take it to mean that we cannot derive morality from nature. I disagree with this on the grounds that morality is an evolved instinct and therefore a product of nature to begin with. I agree that we cannot take everything that is natural to be moral, but I don't know that anyone actually believes that. It would also be selfdefeating, because compassion & cruelty, life & death, extinction & survival, prosperity & catastrophe are all part of nature, so you need some other guide to tell you which of these things are moral & which aren't.That's probably not a good reason to disagree with the thing that the naturalistic and moralistic fallacies don't say. Even if we grant that our moral sense and moral agency are evolved traits - that won't make morality an evolved trait or natural product anymore than our sense of touch being an evolved trait makes a chair an evolved trait or a natural product.
Quote:That's not what I meant. I mean that we cannot apply general principles of nature, like only the strongest survive, on a smaller scale because different species have evolved different survival strategies.Naturalistic fallacy.
Quote:The human strategy is a cooperative, social one.Moralistic fallacy.
Chairs are natural products.