RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 19, 2021 at 1:04 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2021 at 1:28 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(September 18, 2021 at 4:57 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Basically, the universe needs a reason for its existence, like any other contingent entity or object.
And what is the reason why some mountain exists? Or waterfall? Or a rock?
(September 18, 2021 at 9:17 pm)polymath257 Wrote: My position is that the universe is not caused since causality only makes sense once things exist.
And not just that but the so-called causes already debunk any God: evolution is a very inefficient way for some determined creator. All those billions of years of the universe developing stars, and then all those species of lifeforms that died by trial and error just so we can exist after 14 billion years as a planned pinnacle of creation is just nonsense.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"