RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 2, 2021 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2021 at 4:30 pm by Ghetto Sheldon.)
(October 2, 2021 at 4:09 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(October 2, 2021 at 3:37 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote: When I say science is superior to logic, this is an opening line. If you dispute an opening line instead of asking *how* science is superior to logic, then you're arguing against that which you don't understand.
Okay. How is science superior to logic, then?
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When there's a conflict between logic and professional practice of science & medicine, then science/medicine rank over logic.
In medicine, when a tactic makes a delusion worse, the tactic is contraindicated. This is why we atheists need to start collecting data on how badly atheists are only causing backfire.
In a professional setting, it is unethical to demand the delusional search for something which doesn't exist only to have their search mocked. It would also be a 3rd degree felony.
In science & medicine, we don't engage with the delusional to prove ourselves superior over them.
We don't thrive off sociopathic kicks off the incompetent. OUr tactics are justified by R&D. WE have protocol & boundaries & are outcome oriented.
Quote:Your response is of a defensive nature which ranks along with being irrational & willfully ignorant.
Quick question: How would you rate yourself on a 1-10 scale of self-awareness? (10 being very self aware, and 1 being not self aware at all?)
^^ irrelevant & off topic
Quote:That's how easy it is to succumb to being no better than that which is confronted.
Which is very much an intuitive response.
Now, take this info & start listening to my substantiation.
Then start practicing this dynamic with others
The struggle is real. REdirecting is not easy. A refusal to take my suggestion is digging into dogmatic dynamics . We all do it.
Could you elaborate/clarify these points? I don't think I understand any of it. But I'd also rather focus on the science/logic thing and delve into this shit afterward.
(October 2, 2021 at 4:24 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote:(October 2, 2021 at 4:09 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Okay. How is science superior to logic, then?
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When there's a conflict between logic and professional practice of science & medicine, then science/medicine rank over logic.
In medicine, when a tactic makes a delusion worse, the tactic is contraindicated. This is why we atheists need to start collecting data on how badly atheists are only causing backfire.
In a professional setting, it is unethical to demand the delusional search for something which doesn't exist only to have their search mocked. It would also be a 3rd degree felony.
In science & medicine, we don't engage with the delusional to prove ourselves superior over them.
We don't thrive off sociopathic kicks off the incompetent. OUr tactics are justified by R&D. WE have protocol & boundaries & are outcome oriented.
Quick question: How would you rate yourself on a 1-10 scale of self-awareness? (10 being very self aware, and 1 being not self aware at all?)
^^ irrelevant & off topic
Could you elaborate/clarify these points? I don't think I understand any of it. But I'd also rather focus on the science/logic thing and delve into this shit afterward.
(October 2, 2021 at 4:09 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(October 2, 2021 at 3:37 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote: When I say science is superior to logic, this is an opening line. If you dispute an opening line instead of asking *how* science is superior to logic, then you're arguing against that which you don't understand.
Okay. How is science superior to logic, then?
Quote:Your response is of a defensive nature which ranks along with being irrational & willfully ignorant.
Quick question: How would you rate yourself on a 1-10 scale of self-awareness? (10 being very self aware, and 1 being not self aware at all?)
^^ irrelevant
Quote:That's how easy it is to succumb to being no better than that which is confronted.
Which is very much an intuitive response.
Now, take this info & start listening to my substantiation.
Then start practicing this dynamic with others
The struggle is real. REdirecting is not easy. A refusal to take my suggestion is digging into dogmatic dynamics . We all do it.
Could you elaborate/clarify these points? I don't think I understand any of it. But I'd also rather focus on the science/logic thing and delve into this shit afterward.
(October 2, 2021 at 4:09 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(October 2, 2021 at 3:37 pm)Ghetto Sheldon Wrote: When I say science is superior to logic, this is an opening line. If you dispute an opening line instead of asking *how* science is superior to logic, then you're arguing against that which you don't understand.
Okay. How is science superior to logic, then?
Quote:Your response is of a defensive nature which ranks along with being irrational & willfully ignorant.
Quick question: How would you rate yourself on a 1-10 scale of self-awareness? (10 being very self aware, and 1 being not self aware at all?)
Quote:That's how easy it is to succumb to being no better than that which is confronted.
Which is very much an intuitive response.
Now, take this info & start listening to my substantiation.
Then start practicing this dynamic with others
The struggle is real. REdirecting is not easy. A refusal to take my suggestion is digging into dogmatic dynamics . We all do it.
Could you elaborate/clarify these points? I don't think I understand any of it. But I'd also rather focus on the science/logic thing and delve into this shit afterward.
If you don't understand any of it, Im inclined to rule you out for further discussion.