RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
January 4, 2022 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2022 at 5:25 pm by R00tKiT.)
(December 22, 2021 at 5:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Case in point. Rode in on assertions of an evidentiary case, but are now arguing what is not in evidence, what is not detected.
I am not sure what more do you need to concede that causality holds.
Classical physics, even if superceded, is still a good approximation of reality. In fact, one can derive Newton's law of gravitation from GR, for example:
https://qr.ae/pG6gAE
If QM doesn't provide us with an actual exemple of violation of causality (do you have one?), but only with a theoretical limit of what one can observe, then there is no reason to abandon the causal principle.
(December 22, 2021 at 5:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and such a person could do so, and has done so,
Who? Where?
(December 22, 2021 at 5:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What you've been doing is making demands of your god, insisting that such and such is a description of your god, on the basis of theories which we know are badly wrong.
I am not sure why you are doubling down on this. I am not making demands of anyone. If causality is indeed false, and my argments towards a deity are wrong, this just means I can't prove theism, it doesn't mean it's unprovable, or that God doesn't exist, or that Islam is false.
(December 22, 2021 at 9:04 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Every nanosecond the world is destroyed and recreated.
That's how we perceive the passage of time and how we move.
If it didn't happen, we'd be stuck in one moment, one position, for ever.
Can anyone prove me wrong?
Good example. Conversely, nobody can prove by a logical argument that the universe existed 5 minutes ago, or that there is an external world, or that there are other minds.
These examples should make an atheist realize that not everything is proven by empirical observation.