(June 1, 2022 at 2:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(June 1, 2022 at 2:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: To this extent:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4571702/
To be fair, it describes self awareness as a general concept, not the specific definition that you personally dreamed up.
Second paragraph: It doesn’t, because your claim that the delusion of a soul is the result of not fully realized self awareness isn’t a fact, just another thing you dreamed up. That aside, at what level of awareness does the idea of a soul appear? Petunias? Oysters? Cats? Astronauts?
Boru
Yes, I dreamed it up, you have a problem with that? I am not a slave to ideals of other people.
A conception of soul becomes a possibility at the level of self-modeling which extends farther forward in time then the next interaction with surrounding or a set of interactions that will span just a small fraction of the organism’s life span. when the self-model capture large portion of the life cycle of the organism to include eventual inevitable death of the organism, then the concept of the soul would arise if the model fail to accurately predict the model itself, with it any self perception, ends when the organism inevitably ends.
is a cat aware it will grow old and die? if so, does it reflexively think it will need to continue to have more kittens and catch more mouse, somewhere, after it dies? if it does that it could be said it has a concept of soul.
Argle bargle worble whoosh.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson