RE: "Hate the sin, not the sinner" is such a logical fallacy
September 7, 2022 at 4:24 am
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2022 at 4:25 am by Belacqua.)
(September 6, 2022 at 2:26 am)Woah0 Wrote: It explains why their idea of heaven is not to focus so much on this world, aka math, science, education, helping next generation of people to advance, only ok if it is for the sake of God and not what they will subjectively deem as vanity. Because why should you if you can just hang out with a personal God and all that?
What makes you think that Christianity has traditionally opposed observation of this world, of math, science, education, etc.? I know that some Christians have, but this is not an essential characteristic of the religion.
Advances in science in Europe made during the early middle ages were nearly all made by monks. See Falk, Seb; The Light Ages.
https://www.amazon.com/Light-Ages-Surpri...343&sr=8-2
Have you read about the Oxford Calculators? This was a group of theologians who proved through math and empirical experiment that Aristotle was wrong about acceleration.
For every Christian in history you can name who opposed the advance of science, I can name two who didn't.
Quote:Protestant Christianity, i will give credit they did atleast develop a work culture, i assume its due to not relying on church traditions like catholics did. So it was easier to overall accept intellectuals during Martin Luther days, as compared to having absolute control of what was ok and what is a no no. Despite how fundamentalists is a problem in this day and age with politics and such
The rise of Protestant Christianity cannot be separated from the rise of the power of the Bourgeoisie and capitalism. Though attributing a work ethic to individual Protestants may be too simple -- especially today -- it is certainly true that the idea of getting rich and rising in society through one's own initiative coincided with Protestantism.
Catholicism is hierarchical and thus well-suited to a feudal economic system in which power rests with the landed elite. Social mobility is difficult in such a society, and hierarchy is built in.
Protestantism, in contrast, by largely flattening the hierarchy and giving the middle classes a boost, rewarded capitalists -- that is, people for whom power didn't reside in land ownership but in the accumulation of capital. And one of the best ways to accumulate capital is by improving the technology you use in producing goods -- which means that research into applied science becomes a practical effort in the way that it hadn't been under rigidly hierarchical economic systems.
I think it's more accurate to say that the changing economy made Protestantism acceptable as it had never been before. Economics determines things more than theology does. And economic motivations encourage technological innovations.
Catholicism had not actively discouraged the development of technology, but Protestantism came along at just the right time to encourage it (not coincidentally).