RE: Homosexuals and Heaven
September 30, 2011 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2011 at 10:17 pm by salty.)
(September 30, 2011 at 9:33 pm)ElDinero Wrote:(September 30, 2011 at 7:33 pm)salty Wrote: Homosexuality: Homosexual couples must use instruments or parts of the body that were not created for conception, such as the rectum, in order to have sex. Homosexual couples cannot procreate because their genitals are the same, therefore they will never have their bloodline will end when they die.
Fornication: Sexual encounters outside of marriage cause people to catch diseases if they are not careful, (some are curable and others are not). Fornication creates unplanned pregnancies, which furthers abortion and the use of abortion. People involved in fornication can have problems with commitment and trust in relationships, which makes them feel "trapped", this feeling can cause marriages to fall apart the moment they're established.
1. Heterosexual couples also fuck in the ass.
2. What does procreation have to do with anything? I have had sex easily over five hundred times, not once has my intention been to procreate.
3. Do you think unplanned pregnancies never happen to married couples? And do you think that a marriage is by definition a better environment for a child to be raised in?
4. Prove that there is a link between 'fornication' and commitment/trust issues.
5. Why is abortion wrong?
(September 30, 2011 at 9:30 pm)salty Wrote: Sin is measured by morality, an issue of the heart. Biologically a man can have sex with a boy, but what if a man had sex with your son, without his permission? Would you say, "well this is biologically sound, a penis fits into the rectum, have at it!" Or would you want the man locked up?
Are you saying you can't tell the difference between two consenting adults making a private decision, and a man raping a boy? Are you serious?
1. Heterosexual couples can also have sex the right way, they do that other way for pleasure, homosexuals don't have a choice because their bodies don't come together like heterosexual bodies, unless they alter themselves surgically.
2. First, it answers for a reason why homosexuality is wrong. Second, if everyone was homosexual the human race would go extinct. Third, people conceive because it brings them joy, homosexual couples can and do adopt, but it's not the same as having children that resemble you and the one you love. Heterosexual couples may have that joy, but homosexual couples can never fully enjoy it because they need a sperm donor or a surrogate. Fourth, you may not have wanted children in the past, but you won't have sex with a man to get them when you do.
3. What does this question have to do with anything? I'm talking about fornication, not marriage. If an unplanned child comes into a marriage its very likely the child will be kept, there is no shame in a marriage when a child is made, only for an unmarried woman there can be shame.
Why would any child be better off with unmarried parents? What kind of example does that give a child? I love your mom enough to have a baby with her which will connect us until we die but not enough to get marry her, which will also connect us until we die. If a couple is married it's a better household because that couple is saying they are committed, if they can be committed to each other then they are probably committed to raising a child to the best of their abilities.
4. I don't have to, because I used that special word, can, which implies it's able to happen, not that it will.
5. Abortion is wrong 1) because a child cannot accept or deny an invitation into this world the sperm and egg work together to make the child grow. 2) it's murder to take a child by the legs and smash its head on a wall, it's also murder to use tools to slice a baby up and drag it out of a woman's uterus.
That last comment just shows you're frustrated. You know that morals play a big role in sexual acts.
(September 30, 2011 at 9:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The trouble with calling morality a "matter of the heart" is that it is then subjective, isn't it. Let's take your example to the other extreme. If I were to say "My heart tells me having sex with boys is fine" then it would no longer be a sin?
(btw, you're making that homosexuality/pedophilia jump that everyone loves, even if it isn't something that you've done intentionally.)
Thought we were avoiding referencing the bible? "Morality by the Authority of Newborns" followed by "The Lego Theory of Sexual Morality"
I guess in that circumstance, don't get caught because the legal system deems that act to be unlawful. You would have to believe the moral standards of the legal system and the bible are false and that your sense of morality outweighs them, then you're okay, it's not sinful in your mind.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6