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Indiana Senate passes creationism measure - UPI.com
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Indiana Senate passes creationism measure - UPI.com
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/02/0...t=hs&or=tn

Indiana Senate passes creationism measure - UPI.com

INDIANAPOLIS, Feb. 1 (UPI) -- Creationism could be taught alongside the theory of evolution in Indiana schools under a bill passed by the state Senate.

The Indianapolis Star reports if the bill becomes law, the debate over teaching creationism could lead to a lengthy legal battle.
The bill, passed Tuesday by the Senate 28-22, would still need to be approved by the House and signed by Gov. Mitch Daniels before becoming law.

"I believe in creation and I believe it deserves to be taught in our public schools," said Sen. Dennis Kruse, R-Auburn, the bill's author.

The bill would allow teaching of religious views of the origin of creation -- which could be Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Scientology -- along with evolution in public school science classes.

But schools would not be required to teach creationism and an Indiana Department of Education spokesman said the state would not develop curriculum or guidelines for teaching creationism.

Kruse said he is aware the U.S. Supreme Court ruled teaching creationism was unconstitutional in a 1987 case in which the high court found a Louisiana law requiring creation science to be taught alongside evolution violated the Constitution because it was designed to advance religion.
But Kruse said the precedent might not hold today.

"This is a different Supreme Court. This Supreme Court could rule differently," he said.

Indiana school districts can actually teach creationism now, as some do.
Mount Vernon Community School Corp. Superintendent William Riggs said creationism is taught alongside evolution in biology class. "We've been doing this for years," he said.

Riggs said Mount Vernon High School teaches creationism and evolution as "two theories of the origins of life."

But the Star said districts that teach both could be vulnerable to lawsuits, and Kruse's bill would likely bring the state into their defense in a suit.

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Except that evolution is not and never has been about the origins of life. I hope they pass it and it gets challenged in the Supreme Court. Perhaps then, they will have the guts to put an end to this farce once and for all.
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Big surprise, Indiana republicans are shitheads, too.

News at 11!
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(February 1, 2012 at 2:40 pm)orogenicman Wrote: "This is a different Supreme Court. This Supreme Court could rule differently," he said.

The SC has already ruled. Any case that comes as a result of this inanity is going to be decided by a lower court. Guess what is going to guide said court in rendering a decision...

Which is to say, that if the court is doing it's job, it'll never get that far.
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I guess he's never heard of Kitzmiller vs. Dover.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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It must suck to be American... although, you are never short of entertainment with this kind of thing.
Cunt
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This shit is definitely not entertaining.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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All I can say is thank you, Indiana, for making my home state of Kansas look sane by comparison.

But please don't give our state legislature any ideas.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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(February 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm)frankiej Wrote: It must suck to be American... although, you are never short of entertainment with this kind of thing.

Dunno about you Frankie, but it's shit like this makes me glad and even a little bit proud of our little island. Wouldn't stand here would it.

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Once again, the wisdom of Robert Green Ingersoll is directly on point.

Quote:An infinite God ought to be able to protect himself, without going in partnership with State Legislatures. Certainly he ought not so to act that laws become necessary to keep him from being laughed at. No one thinks of protecting Shakespeare from ridicule, by the threat of fine and imprisonment.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll
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RE: Indiana Senate passes creationism measure - UPI.com
Indiana is my home state.
I am unbelievably dissapointed but not surprised. The current government has been anti-education and science from the very moment they were elected, but hopefully saner minds will ultimately prevail.
I'd hate to return to Indiana to see my family only to see that the movie "Idiocracy" had become a self-fufilling prophecy.

(Why are you such a goddamn genius, Mike Judge? Why? Someone needs to give you some sort of award or something.)
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

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