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Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 7:41 pm
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Benefits?
Work trials?
I read the thing that you posted, and from what I understand it's somewhat a part of the welfare system, yes?
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 8:08 pm
How was it slave labour...the government were paying you benefits right? I mean, if you were actually working and getting no money I'd agree with you, but I thought people on jobseekers got paid a specific amount every 2 weeks?
In any case, I'd argue this is the problem with the welfare system; it's internally corrupt. The government have no interest in finding people jobs when they can just pay them welfare and drain the taxes of the employed. At the end of the day, everyone loses out; the tax payers and the unemployed.
Whether this is a case of business taking advantage is debatable; but it's definitely a case of the government taking advantage. After all, business can't strip you of your welfare allowance...the government can.
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 8:14 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 8:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: How was it slave labour...the government were paying you benefits right? I mean, if you were actually working and getting no money I'd agree with you, but I thought people on jobseekers got paid a specific amount every 2 weeks?
In any case, I'd argue this is the problem with the welfare system; it's internally corrupt. The government have no interest in finding people jobs when they can just pay them welfare and drain the taxes of the employed. At the end of the day, everyone loses out; the tax payers and the unemployed.
Whether this is a case of business taking advantage is debatable; but it's definitely a case of the government taking advantage. After all, business can't strip you of your welfare allowance...the government can.
I do agree that the unemployed should do something for society. I also mentioned I agree and have no problems with it. However, being lied to by the jobcentre and by the stores while working for unacceptable hours for the tiny pay you get. About £50 to £53 a week. It doesn't cover the hours of labour. You don't get any extra for the work load. Your working full time for 2 months for...nothing. Only the store gains, you don't. Also it's not helping society, it's working for a large business for nothing.
But yeah, the jobcentre and the government have some fucking answering to do.
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 8:21 pm
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 8:29 pm
(February 12, 2012 at 8:21 pm)Tiberius Wrote: What are your qualifications btw? I know that's a rather person question, but I'm just interested if I can help you find a job. Feel free to PM me if you need to; I'm very good at rewriting people's CV's so they look epic. Exhibit A: http://adrianhayter.com/documents/cv.pdf
It's the lack of honesty I dislike the most. At least with both wild life parks I was told right up. The Matalan managers looked me in the eyes and lied to me. That pissed me off.
Don't have many qualifications. Literacy is good, many good skills in labour. Especially with wild life.
My work right now isn't likely to hold. Cut backs are a bitch. Any job that involves labour, specificity with the wild life would be best. Currently looking for such work places now. The closer it is the better. Hate public transport. People smell. 
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 9:03 pm
What is your profession anyways?
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 12, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Theyre fucking you man. This isnt a big business vs. big government problem. BOTH are on and the same, and they are fucking you. They are taking other workers money to pay you substandard and make profit from your outrageous work hours.
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RE: Businesses taking advantage
February 13, 2012 at 7:16 am
(February 12, 2012 at 9:03 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: What is your profession anyways? General labourer. I'm best when it comes to hard physical labour.
(February 12, 2012 at 9:56 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Theyre fucking you man. This isnt a big business vs. big government problem. BOTH are on and the same, and they are fucking you. They are taking other workers money to pay you substandard and make profit from your outrageous work hours.
Agree with you completely. They were just fucking with me. But no more.
Work trials were supposed to be a max of 2 weeks. Realistically, a week really, not 8 fucking weeks of full time work with no pay. That's wrong.
Corruption plain and simple.
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