My mother annoys me

[Nine]

I've made an analogy and said it many times, based on anecdotal evidence, sure, but I think its pretty much valid:

When I was addicted to heroin, I often thought about how life would not be as joyous and/or worth living without the 'feeling good' that heroin gave me, while trying to find reasons to not quit drugs. I had the hardest of times quitting it, and for like 2 years after, I struggled to find purpose and joy in life without them. This is what I see in many religious people and from my own deconvertion, I can say the feeling is quite similar.

So, religion is like a drug addiction, you find solace in that belief that was put in your mind since childhood, because you can't really see how can one live life without god and the queezy feeling that belief gives you. But as in drugs, you can't be convinced or forced by others to quit religion, you have to get there yourself, struggle with it a bit, yes, but you have to do it yourself.

Now, 12 years after stopping drugs and 17 years after I quit religion, I laugh on how silly I was.

Very well done mate <3

Great analogy too. Mostly i feel empathy for all the people wasting there time fearing the magic invisible evil git named God..

[LastPoet]

I personally can live my life just fine and moral without religion and God. If religion is out of fear or just because it feels good, I agree it like a drug addiction and just as destructive. However if you find religion though experimentation, observation and rational thinking, it's just like any other belief; healthy and sound. I was taught math since childhood, does that make it an irrational or unhealthy belief? Would you compare a belief in chemistry or love of soccer to drug addiction? I never got a queezy feeling with or without religion, perhaps some pepto?

Not saying all christians are like that, but alot of them give me that idea Tack. Anyway, soccer and chemistry do exist, and although I personally think pro soccer (and all the pro sports for that matter) should be banned (modern roman circuses, enormous amounts of money spent on a game that could be spent in other more valuable causes) I don't feel the analogy extends that far. I don't advocate the end of sports, just pro sports, btw.

[Faith No More]

For instance, I said something off the cuff about how priests like to touch little boys. She gets offended. She tuts and pulls some snarly face like I've just insulted her. It's a fact though, Catholic priests HAVE touched little boys. But why if you don't go to church every sunday, if you don't even pray, would you get offended by something like that?

My wife gets pissed if I mention this, or if I tear down the pope as she considers herself Catholic even though the Catholic church disagrees(apparently if you get married outside of the church you are no longer Catholic even though if you want to marry a non-Catholic, he/she must convert to marry in the church).

The other day I was watching a kid's show with my wife and son and they were singing a song called 'Hugs are Fun.' Now my son isn't quite one yet so he doesn't understand this but I made a joke about watching out for "special" hugs. After a brief pause I then said, "Which is why you have to be careful if mommy takes you to church."

She was fucking pissed.

[Nine]

"Which is why you have to be careful if mommy takes you to church."

She was fucking pissed.

Nice!

The thing is the whole of religion is so completely flawed that you either believe in a pathetic excuse of a rule book that is less moral than even the less desirable humans.. Or disregard all the bits you don't like and god becomes so useless there is no point..

[thesummerqueen]

I don't advocate the end of sports, just pro sports, btw.

How else are politicians supposed to secretly distract the masses?

[Nine]

I don't advocate the end of sports, just pro sports, btw.

How else are politicians supposed to secretly distract the masses?

Cake

[LastPoet]

How else are politicians supposed to secretly distract the masses?

With celeb magazines and scandals, but one thing at the time dear

[The Grand Nudger]

Your mother annoyed me once Nap, once.

[Napoléon]

Your mother annoyed me once Nap, once.

In your dreams.

[Xavier]

I'd say that there is a very good reason that his wife believes what she does, just like Napolean's mom (and my wife too, btw), and it has nothing to do with the validity of her beliefs. She, like every other Christian that I've ever met or corresponded with (including every Christian on this forum, especially the ones that claim to be "former atheists") was indoctrinated as a child. It is almost impossible for her to not carry on believing what she was taught before she reached the age of reason. People in authority when she was a child instructed her that the Christian god is real, the Bible is God's word, hell is a real place to be feared, Satan is real, sin is real, etc, etc. It is a statistical fact that the vast majority of people that were indoctrinated as children have an extremely difficult time escaping the clutches of their indoctrination, and it is almost pointless to try to deprogram them.

I was indoctrinated as a child with religious belief, and was forced to go to church all the time by my parents, and went to a very religous school where we were taught Christian beliefs and mythology as being facts as much as science and recorded history is fact.
I still rejected it a very early age because it seemed completely irrational and in no way plausible.

I just don't understand how people can grow up and still believe in this stuff.
I think its a million times harder to believe Christian god is real, the Bible is God's word, hell is a real place to be feared, Satan is real, sin is real, etc, etc. than it is to be an atheist.

I can't help it but I get very angry with Christians when discussing religion because it seems to me they're just deliberately trying to be stupid and wilfully ignorant and I have no respect for that.