National anthems are scarey!

[reverendjeremiah]

@Rev, it's shit, but when sung, it is quite a powerbalad, seriously, but i still dislike it.

I COMPLETELY understand. Sort of like the upbeat and funky gospel music. I absolutely LOVE it, but the lyrics nibble the dingle berries out of a dead whore's snatch.

[kılıç_mehmet]

I liked the chinese one better than Mehmets.

Suit yourself. This anthem will be replaced by a new one once we form Turan.

Yeah...ummm...okay.

Then again, if you consider it to be a good thing, then there is probably something very, VERY wrong with it.

I consider it because a new country requires a new anthem. This anthem we have is great, but need one that praises the glory of Turan.

[The Grand Nudger]

Don't people usually wait until they actually have a new country to write an official anthem for it? I wouldn't hold my breath.

[reverendjeremiah]

I liked the chinese one better than Mehmets.

Suit yourself. This anthem will be replaced by a new one once we form Turan.

There is one problem with this idea though Mehmet. Your nationalist far right party is lucky to even gain13% of the vote. Gaining only 53 out of 550 in parliament, the Grey wolves arent doing very well, not even close to making that Turkan racially pure country.

I just have one question: Why does this fascist party even HAVE any seats in parliament to begin with? Turkey is much better than these Jackasses.

[kılıç_mehmet]

I liked the chinese one better than Mehmets.

Suit yourself. This anthem will be replaced by a new one once we form Turan.

There is one problem with this idea though Mehmet. Your nationalist far right party is lucky to even gain13% of the vote. Gaining only 53 out of 550 in parliament, the Grey wolves arent doing very well, not even close to making that Turkan racially pure country.

I just have one question: Why does this fascist party even HAVE any seats in parliament to begin with? Turkey is much better than these Jackasses.

Far right?
They are not far...anywhere. If we'd take over that party, 1/3 of it's members would be expelled!
The MHP has seats, because there are a lot of Turks who were also members of the ocak in the old days, and people who vote for it because they do not want to vote for the new CHP, which is party who was founded by our great founder Atatürk, who was like me, a Turkist, but it was turned into the nesting ground of communists and other manners of leftists after his death. Our dear mentor Hüseyin Nihal Atsız criticized the elite cadre of the CHP for turning this nationalist party into a communist party, and supported the foundation of a new party. The MHP. It was intended as a Turkist party, who advocated Turan, and Turkic unity.
Soon after, however, populist policies began to unravel, and the matter of religion was integrated into the ideology of the party. The gray wolf was not to be the emblem of the party, but the three crescent moons of the Ottomans!
Turkists have objected to this, and threw their membership pins away in a massive discussion. And Alparslan Türkeş who was responsible for this said, "Today, Allah has beaten Tanrı(Tengri)".
This was a massive blow to our hearts. However, despite his treachery, Alparslan Türkeş did valiantly fought the fight against the roots of communism in this country, although he did nothing to further the goals of Turan, he simply played the games of the NATO.
After the Soviet union collapsed, many grey wolves found themselves in emptiness. Their ideology was founded on the basis of combatting communism. The communists found themselves a new enemy, that they named American imperialism, and have associated everything with it ever since.
Ever since, many nationalists flock into our ranks.
We're growing slowly, but at a steady pace. Soon, we shall have a majority in the MHP, and change the party into what it was intented to be. The current leader of the party is an old fart, who preaches ideas like brotherhood between Turks and Kurds.
This is unacceptable from our part. Once he is gone, the party will resume it's policies of founding Turan, with our partners from other Turkic countries, of course.

[The Grand Nudger]

Fuck brotherly love. With Kurds? Hell, they're barely human beings compared to Turks. Pass the ammunition.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Of course, in the meantime, I'm hopefully working my up the food chain within the structure of our organisation.
The party will hold a ten week of political courses during the next months, and will give a certificate signed by the party leader, and with it, I hope to join the ranks of the MHP later on, when I've amassed sufficient funds for it.
Until that time, I tell the youngsters that come to our ranks of their first and foremost goal: Turan. Anything else, is secondary. The current ideology of Türkeş holds Islam and Turan on the same degree. If it has come to that, why not include arabs, iranians and pakis into Turan aswell? It's silly.
I have further plans, although a little setback was the disbanding of our group by the communist dean of the school. Since then, we have joined the ranks of the mainstream grey wolves. But as I said, we're growing, although I must add that we do not have conflict with the followers of Türkeş. They are nationalists, just as we. However, they are following an ideology with two ends. Islamism advocates racial equality. We only advocate brotherhood between Turks.

Fuck brotherly love. With Kurds? Hell, they're barely human beings compared to Turks. Pass the ammunition.

I don't know what kind of a relationship we have with the Kurds.
But I can tell you what kind of a relationship we don't have, that we never did. Brotherhood. The MHP is going more populist than ever, and it is troubling. This is not how you follow an ideal.
Besides, I can tell you here and now, that the Kurds themselves do not want such a thing. Why should we?

Free Kurdistan.

Maybe you want to come over and free them, eh?
They'll give you some training, an AK-47, and send you into the fray. You can't bathe more than once a year though, and food is scarce in the mountains. You'll probably eat wild boar every day until wild boar is coming out of your ears for some people you've probably never encountered.
Free kurdistan? Absolutely.
Free them from this misery of a life and send them to the afterlife!

[5thHorseman]

Free Kurdistan.

[kılıç_mehmet]

I really am so happy here, in this forum.

[reverendjeremiah]

Funny that Mehmet...everything I have read about the nationalist party shows that it is far right wing and fascist like most other nationalist parties.