13 Things the Bible Condems

[fr0d0]

The article starts off with a successful rebuttal, then proceeds to give examples of what is already disproven as somehow correct?... Slap head atheism right there.

[pgrimes15]

Maseroni said:-
" They then picked and chose each story and reformatted to fit the specific needs of their people. You can't say the Bible has set answers, they are stories meant to guide and educate. How far you want to read into each passage and come to a specific conclusion is up to you. Do you believe non-believers need to die then have at it. Do you think all people deserve a good life well there you go. Should I eat pig? Yes? No?"

Yes that sems very reasonable Maseroni, how most Christians - at least in the UK - conduct themselves. However many also take comfort in what they percieve as the certainties and unambiguous commands and laws in the bible, and anyone who has ever said "because it says so in the bible" or "the bible is very clear on this" cannot then take refuge in the "interpretation" defence that you have outlined.

Incidentally, are you sure you are an "ex-catholic". A poster in another atheist forum I read claimed to be that. He seemed to have no problem with the intellectual conviction that there are no Gods, but by his own admission struggled to leave behind the "God-shaped" hole that had been imposed on him from childhood.

Regards

Grimsy

[Minimalist]

"Recovering" from catholicism takes a loong time. They make it easier now by sodomizing children and failing to turn the offenders over for prosecution but it still takes a while to get the smell off the furniture.

[mazeroni]

Maseroni said:-
" They then picked and chose each story and reformatted to fit the specific needs of their people. You can't say the Bible has set answers, they are stories meant to guide and educate. How far you want to read into each passage and come to a specific conclusion is up to you. Do you believe non-believers need to die then have at it. Do you think all people deserve a good life well there you go. Should I eat pig? Yes? No?"

Yes that sems very reasonable Maseroni, how most Christians - at least in the UK - conduct themselves. However many also take comfort in what they percieve as the certainties and unambiguous commands and laws in the bible, and anyone who has ever said "because it says so in the bible" or "the bible is very clear on this" cannot then take refuge in the "interpretation" defence that you have outlined.

Incidentally, are you sure you are an "ex-catholic". A poster in another atheist forum I read claimed to be that. He seemed to have no problem with the intellectual conviction that there are no Gods, but by his own admission struggled to leave behind the "God-shaped" hole that had been imposed on him from childhood.

Regards

Grimsy

I wasn't trying to defend Christians or any other faith. I agree that people follow these ,'unambiguous commands.' The issue is this list does nothing to convince me that any point has been made against anything and people shouldn't view it has anything more. I guess when I come into these pages I see these poorly conceived lists or explanations that people use to strengthen their point of view and it is either overly generic or just made up of incorrect assumptions.

"Recovering" from catholicism takes a loong time. They make it easier now by sodomizing children and failing to turn the offenders over for prosecution but it still takes a while to get the smell off the furniture.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Again, I'm not defending it because there were a lot of cover ups. I agree it was wrong. However teachers molest kids, and when I was in school I was taught that the Indians welcomed us and were our friends and we were fair and gave them safe land to live on. That was a complete lie. Clearly the education is just as corrupt. I'd love to hear your ideas on what to do about the dangerous education system. What about that fun uncle that slips into your kids bed while babysitting because you trust him. What should we do about relatives and babysitters?

It must be hard to 'recover' from Catholicism amidst all of the other shit I'm having to deal with from my past :\

[Minimalist]

Again, I'm not defending it because there were a lot of cover ups. I agree it was wrong. However teachers molest kids

I'm glad to hear the first part. I've run into catholic apologists who insist that the priests were unfairly accused. Glad you aren't one of those.

As for teachers? Yeah, it happens. And when they are caught they are turned over to the police for prosecution - not moved to other schools where they can do it again.

And before you protest, remember....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/world/...wanted=all

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future pope and archbishop in Munich at the time, was copied on a memo that informed him that a priest, whom he had approved sending to therapy in 1980 to overcome pedophilia, would be returned to pastoral work within days of beginning psychiatric treatment. The priest was later convicted of molesting boys in another parish.

Herr Von Popenfuhrer himself is in it up to his unholy eyebrows.

You can't be free of catholicism until you understand what a power crazed bunch of scumbags run the church and what their crimes have been throughout the centuries.

[Renee Katz]

The 13 Things the Bible Doesn't Condemn.

[8BitAtheist]

Tattoos: Innocent
Hair cuts: Guilty
Penis injury: Well, I never had any STD's but I have been a bit rough at times... *ahem* so.. Guilty.
Psychics: Well, I did have my palm read once at state fair or carnival or some city thing when I was very young. The memory is quite hazy.
Gossip: Do xtians consider facts to be gossip? Innocent
Sex before marriage: I don't ever want to be married and I really like sex.. so... Guilty.
Ham Sandwich: Guilty. Fucking Love ham, and bacon.
Cursing parents: Of course, parents that can be retarded as mine need to be cursed. Thinking women were made from men's ribs and men from dirt.
Never been married so never been divorced
No work on Sabbath. Don't have a job. So.. Innocent
Haven't been in a church for a long while. It's a toss up but I'll say innocent
Seafood: Innocent. Hate seafood.
Virginity: What the fuck is this?

I may be a heathen, yall!

[jupitor]

Not eating pig/seafoods in the dietary laws is only because in those times there were no fridges and those particular foods would go 'off' in hours in the heat, thus causing food poisoning etc. that's all it is, everyone should be able to eat what they wish now that refrigeration has been invented

[The Grand Nudger]

You're giving that prohibition too much credit. You're doing so in light of knowledge that the people who authored it did not have (that we possess now). You cannot eat those things because they are "unclean". That is, spiritually deficient and not worthy of consumption by a spiritually glorified creature. It had nothing to do with refridgeration or spoilage, but it still performed that function in their complete ignorance of the specifics. In other words, a lucky mistake with practical benefits.

As to the OP, some of those prohibitions would have been literally impossible for my ancestors to follow, such as the prohibition against pork. Past a certain point in time there was very little else that could offer sufficient levels of sustenance, hence a culture that both consumed pork, and deified the boar. Maybe god should have dropped something else for my ancestors to eat on their little island if he didn't want me to hail from a pork eating culture. On another note, the only reason I managed to avoid dick injury in the first place was because my family did not assign any value to those prohibitions. Otherwise I'd be walking around with what appeared to be a little growth sprouting from between my legs rather than something that looks completely in place and natural to the rest of my body. I personally think that whoever came up with the circumcision bit really like to stare at penis, and thought of foreskin as an obstruction to their cock-gazing fetish.