Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.

[downbeatplumb]

You tube is there nothing you cant convey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4pxYEDy1...re=related

[thesummerqueen]

Binary thinking - apparently those who dress in a sexy manner are incapable of splitting their minds between the sex they obviously want and the parenting they're supposed to do. Goddamn, when I wear a dress that's low in the tit area and high in the thigh, I find it hard to get through the day - that skankification just overrules any of my other good sense.

Or I could just be dressing like that because it's fucking hot outside.

[Greatest I am]

@OP What century are you from?

Edit: Another pertinent question to ask is do you have any kids?

Centuries past, at their ugliest had men and women in better control of their passions. Especially the parents.

As to me, I have 4 boys, now men and all are responsible and even the one who is divorced is looking after his children thanks.

What does that question have to do with our cities being full of skanks and whores of both sexes?

Regards
DL

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[quote='kılıç_mehmet' pid='253687' dateline='1331653015']

I do agree with most of your words. A society cannot properly survive without the guidelines you've set before here.

Thank you much.
We both see 20/20.

Regards
DL

[Faith No More]

As to me, I have 4 boys, now men and all are responsible and even the one who is divorced is looking after his children thanks.

What does that question have to do with our cities being full of skanks and whores of both sexes?

Just wondering because there are too many childless people out there with no clue what it takes to be a parent that love to spout off about how children should be raised.

Still wating for those statistics...

[Greatest I am]

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Why post shit like this? Articles like this do nothing productive. They just point fingers. And where it says men deserve more of the blame, WTF ever. The article writer can blame me as well, like my wife doesnt already blame everything on me already.

Men do deserve more of the blame.

Count the number of unwed fathers compared to unwed mothers.

Who is taking on more of their duty to their children? Men or women?

Children are the life blood of any nation and men are relying on women to carry that burden and load.

Shame on all men and especially whiners like you who would ride on the backs of women.

Regards
DL

[thesummerqueen]

Oh boy, we've got ourselves a traditionalist of epic proportions here.

[Faith No More]

Also one that cannot seem to defend his position beyond saying, 'I hate this, therefore no one should do it.'

[Greatest I am]

The middle class upholds values? Probably not Mehm. I understand you don't seem to give much consideration to the po' folks of the world, but that's the majority of the world, and traditional values ARE theirs. It isn't the middle or upper class clinging to "traditional values" in the US, brother.

I disagree. Usually the higher up the socio economic ladder one is, the higher the moral content. It is partly due to education and self-pride and opportunity I think.

Regards
DL

[kılıç_mehmet]

I can't make this anymore plain to you. The traditional values of america, are the traditional values of the poor and disenfranchised. They are the ones who created america's traditional values, they are the ones who cling to those values.

Which are? Frankly, there is so much information regarding what the US is, I can't really tell what "tradition" really means in America.
What I meant by "tradition", I did not mean your cultural values, if you have any, being the weird melting pot you are, but things that are generally thought to be as the type of values that are most beneficial to the individual and society, which are alike around most of the world by now. Like, for example, marrying, before having children, having a job, a nice house, a peaceful family and etc.
Not to mention a peaceful society, where the youth do not delve into things like drugs, one night stands, or where sexuality is a private matter, and not the talk of the town.
These are "traditional" in my mind, and "traditional" in your mind.

They cling to them so firmly that it becomes easy to exploit them along those lines. Who do you imagine might be doing that?

To what? They cling to what, really? Religion? Is that it?

For better or for worse, the middle class in america has always been the midnight riders, the boogeymen, those drafted from the poor by the wealthy to keep check on those and that which the wealthy owned.

The middle class are your teachers, your professors, your lawyers, your judges and most of the people that really have an effect on how society works today.
The middle class is what drives society forward.
Let's look at the countries who lack a "middle class", or have a shortage thereof. Russia. There, you're either very rich, or very poor.
The people who are ought to be middle class, are poor.
The same problems are surfacing in your country right now. Without the middle class, the lower classes are lost, as they cannot jump the gap from being poor, to being rich, they are stuck there.

Now we tried to break free from that shit, and look how the "middle class" has been crushed, perhaps for getting just a little too close to the american dream? Ask the wealthy who's to blame (and the former middle class of america is definitely asking), and they point to the poor, as they have always done.

Why point to the poor? The US has never been a social state, as to blame them.

See how this works? You pick someone lower on the societal rung, and you scapegoat them for whatever ill you perceive at any given time. Does that sound familiar to you Mehm? You'd make a damned fine american, if you asked the right people.

No, that does not sound familiar to me. Why? Because pointing out problems is not a crime. Neither it is "scapegoating" as you'd like to say it.
Without pointing out the problems, you cannot solve them.

[Faith No More]

I disagree. Usually the higher up the socio economic ladder one is, the higher the moral content

I am dying to see your evidence for this. In fact, a study just came out recently that said the rich act less moral.

http://rupert-taylor.suite101.com/rich-p...st-a403923