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Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
#51
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
It's a moot point anyway, I think.
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#52
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
(March 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: That's your subjective opinion on whether or not abortion is "immoral"

In short.
I hate the idea of wasting any potential human and dislike abortion.
Not enough though to give up my own reproductive autonomy and I have to pass that same right to others and thus have to come down on the free choice side.

Part of this post speaks to men and women taking responsible for their sexuality and it would be foolish for me to shift that burden to a government.

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DL
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#53
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
(March 13, 2012 at 4:50 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: I have forgotten and do not plan on looking back.

Which is about 45% of what is really wrong with the world today.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#54
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
Greatest I am Wrote:Yes and yes. Both are improvements on the status quo.

Like Jaysyn said...Hooray for facism!

Where did you get the ego to believe that your opinions would dictate a better society?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#55
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
(March 13, 2012 at 4:54 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: In short.
I hate the idea of wasting any potential human and dislike abortion.
Not enough though to give up my own reproductive autonomy and I have to pass that same right to others and thus have to come down on the free choice side.

Part of this post speaks to men and women taking responsible for their sexuality and it would be foolish for me to shift that burden to a government.

Regards
DL

So again, can you define skanky?

Because having people enjoy sex and dress sexually, but be educated in taking responsibility for themselves and their lives, including with birth control, has nothing to do with being irresponsibly promiscuous.
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#56
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
(March 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
Greatest I am Wrote:Yes and yes. Both are improvements on the status quo.

Like Jaysyn said...Hooray for facism!

Where did you get the ego to believe that your opinions would dictate a better society?

From the dark side.
I have a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjddye2JSA

and a delinquent personality that I have to constantly fight. I know evil from good because I know evil more than most. Knowing that evil also shows me what is good.

I am not good but know what it looks like and try to show others that picture.

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DL
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#57
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
This whole thread has been a pointless exercise in hubris.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#58
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
If you're trying to show others a picture of good in this thread, you're failing horribly.
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#59
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
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(March 13, 2012 at 5:04 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: [

So again, can you define skanky?

The dictionary will help you.

I can give an example though and it has little to do with what is worn but more the how and where.

An example would be a girl in grade 10 with a tube top and a skirt up to her ass. I have experienced that and on a beach would be fine, in school, it is skanky. If I recall correctly, she was one of the ones my son called a hoe.

My wife tells me and I agree, that just about any picture of Madonna or lady Ga-Ga will be seem as skanky.

Quote:Because having people enjoy sex and dress sexually, but be educated in taking responsibility for themselves and their lives, including with birth control, has nothing to do with being irresponsibly promiscuous.

It all comes down to what you want your children to think and be.
Do you want your daughter to be like you knowing that she will likely start at an earlier age than you did?

Regards
DL
(March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If you're trying to show others a picture of good in this thread, you're failing horribly.

So put your money where your mouth is.

Regards
DL
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#60
RE: Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.
[chuckling]

Do I want my daughter to be like me?

Do you think the world could handle another me?

What I want for my daughter, if I had one, which I don't plan to, is what Hector said about his son - to paraphrase, that they will say she was greater than her mother. That she will DO better things, and not worry what others think about how she dresses or with whom or how often she decides to have sex. That she will feel comfortable in her own skin and develop her own style and feel herself beloved and beautiful. That other people's designations of "skanky" or "modest" have no bearing on her because she's too busy being strong and healthy and happy. That she realizes that being productive in the world is not constrained by other people's rules and regulations. That she will know that I will love her.

I hope to whatever powers there are or aren't that she "starts" her confidence "earlier" than I did, that she bulldozes past people like you and blazes a trail so bright it offends your eyes and blinds you. I want her smile to be brighter and her presence to be the "light in dark places." I want her to never suffer the feeling that she is somehow less than you because of your arbitrary and subjective opinion, but I hope I give her the compassion and patience to deal with people like you. None of those things are necessarily separate or impossible to attain whilst maintaining some subjective idea of virtue and modesty, or having fun.
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