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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Some of our posters may very well be 12. Hell, it's hard for me to accept that our resident creationists (just as one example) have even cracked open a highschool biology textbook yet. They remind me very much of child singers who croon about love and loss, clever mimics, but mimics nonetheless.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 7:55 pm
(March 17, 2012 at 6:30 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Theists are full of holy shit aren't they?
Their rubbish is honestly not worth responding to. We'd be insulting our own intelligence if we entertained their mindless ranting for even a brief moment.
They're worth shitting on. Them and their fucking gods.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Eyem4Christ Wrote:Theists who understand even a little about cosmology are forced to believe in God...
Well you know what they say. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:24 pm
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Quote:Eyem4Christ Wrote:
Theists who understand even a little about cosmology are forced to believe in God...
Well yes,I guess that's true for anyone who understand as little as you. Not to worry, you'll be fine once you reach high school. Or not.
This just popped into my head, I don't know why Quote:If ignorance is bliss t'is folly to be wise (trad)
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm
The ignorant aren't any happier, they just can't put their finger on why they aren't any happier.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm
(March 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Eyem4Christ Wrote: I suppose I should start some kind of thread to see how things will go. Here's something that bothers me.
There is the dimension of space, it’s three dimensional, and then there is the dimension of time. But then there are the forces of nature: gravity, electromagnetism, the weak and strong interaction forces.
There’s only two ways to look at this. One is atheistic and suggests that for no reason at all the entire universe popped into existence out of nothing with these particular properties in place for no reason. The only problem with that is that these four fundamental forces were needed before the universe existed. They were needed for the universe to have ever come into existence to begin with. They had to exist prior to it.
Atheists would have us return to ignorance. They would say that this is simply unknowable, and it’s unknowable because God can’t possibly exist, even though the universe and its fundamental forces are inconceivable apart from an intelligent designer bringing it into existence.
If God is not there, then the universe is magic. It came into existence without the fundamental forces in place, either separately or as a grand unified force. The forces would have had to come after—even though they were needed before. That's magical thinking.
Theists who understand even a little about cosmology are forced to believe in God, because that is the only non-magical explanation. A Divine Designer who existed prior to the universe is simply more plausible than the alternative.
That's my take on things--unless you know a better way. 
Your post made me think of this.....
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How about you go and actually learn some fucking science before you come here and tell us what it isn't you ignorant fuck.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:43 pm
(March 17, 2012 at 8:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The ignorant aren't any happier, they just can't put their finger on why they aren't any happier.
The happiest person I've ever known was my cousin.(now deceased) He was sublimely ignorant. But then,he had Downes syndrome and had a mental age of four. 
On reflection it has occurred to me just how fearful many believers must be;the god they describe is a dead cunt. I'd be terrified of him too. 
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Appeals to the best and worst of us, I believe I've heard it said.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:51 pm
(March 17, 2012 at 8:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Appeals to the best and worst of us, I believe I've heard it said.
God certainly seems to embody all that which we seem to find repugnant in humanity.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 17, 2012 at 8:52 pm
I'm sorry, but what is it with yo guys where, "I don't know" automatically means "God"? Seriously.
And your argument that it doesn't makes sense for the universe to pop out of nothing is a total non-starter, there is no such thing as "nothing", there was never nothing, there has always been something regardless of how insignificant, and if you can believe that your God (of which there is no evidence whatsoever) has been around since time began, is it so hard to believe that the universe (of which there is much evidence, fucking look around you) has been around since time began?
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