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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 8:54 am
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(March 19, 2012 at 8:59 am)Darwinian Wrote: But would that be you or a copy of you
what do you mean by that
(March 19, 2012 at 9:11 am)Phil Wrote: (March 19, 2012 at 7:42 am)bigboy Wrote: is there any scientific (physical,biological or chemistry) paradoxes or objections to my idea which is:
after a person dies
his consciousness/ sentience is brought back or recreated in a metaphysical/supernatural form by God (not restricting him to any religion) to reside in God's realm eternally.
now I know that in this universe we need a brain in order for consciousness to work.
So what if this metaphysical/ supernatural God can provide a metaphysical supernatural brain for the metaphysical/supernatural consciousness he recreates or brings back
sorry for using metaphysical/supernatural everywhere
if this is not possible AT ALL please explain why
Every reason it is impossible you were given on another forum but since you're a stubborn fucktard, you have some reasons here that it's impossible plus the one I'm gonna give you (and for good measure so is Brian Cox), it is against the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
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can you please elaborate
explain to me how it is against the 2nd law of thermo dynamics?
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 9:06 am
bigboy Wrote:explain to me how it is against the 2nd law of thermo dynamics? When you're old enough to go to university, go study a bachelor of science. All will be explained.
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 9:41 am
There is a common theme in the "innocence" professed by many as they ask extremely programmatic questions which purport incredulity at the possibility of a simple "no" answer. Only the theists are asking these kinds of questions. I find them boring. The pattern is always the same.
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 9:51 am
(March 20, 2012 at 9:41 am)Epimethean Wrote: There is a common theme in the "innocence" professed by many as they ask extremely programmatic questions which purport incredulity at the possibility of a simple "no" answer. Only the theists are asking these kinds of questions. I find them boring. The pattern is always the same.
Tell me about it....
Then again, I shouldn't be talking. I used to be one of those annoying theists!
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 10:17 am
(March 20, 2012 at 9:51 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Then again, I shouldn't be talking. I used to be one of those annoying theists!
Maybe by asking such questions and having your ass handed to you so many times made you see reason.
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 10:23 am
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(March 20, 2012 at 10:17 am)Napoleon Wrote: (March 20, 2012 at 9:51 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Then again, I shouldn't be talking. I used to be one of those annoying theists!
Maybe by asking such questions and having your ass handed to you so many times made you see reason.
That's exactly what did it. Except bigboy/sjosan here has already asked the same question over and over and over again and even reworded it to try and avoid explanations at a different forum. This I didn't do because that's not how you learn. Obviously his aim is to make his idea at least remotely plausible.. but that's just delusional thinking.
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm
(March 19, 2012 at 7:42 am)bigboy Wrote: is there any scientific (physical,biological or chemistry) paradoxes or objections to my idea which is:
after a person dies
his consciousness/ sentience is brought back or recreated in a metaphysical/supernatural form by God (not restricting him to any religion) to reside in God's realm eternally.
now I know that in this universe we need a brain in order for consciousness to work.
So what if this metaphysical/ supernatural God can provide a metaphysical supernatural brain for the metaphysical/supernatural consciousness he recreates or brings back
sorry for using metaphysical/supernatural everywhere
if this is not possible AT ALL please explain why Maybe, friend. I'd sure hope so.
Like, why not?
It's a nice thought. However, I'd rather believe in the concept of an immortal soul, than reincarnation, which creates a new consciousness each time the soul is reborn anywhere.
This is not really what I'd hold of an eternal soul.
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 6:22 pm
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We don't have an eternal life, why would we expect to have an eternal afterlife? Why would we even want one anyway? Most if not all of us have enough trouble coping with the little time we know we have. An eternal life with no hope for reprieve would frighten the shit out of any rational person, and quite right too.
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 7:42 pm
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Quote:if this is not possible AT ALL please explain why
Possible? I think so,as is an Abrahamic god or aliens landing in the car park today at 3 pm. I do not believe in any of those things due to the lack of credible evidence,
I have not the slightest interest in proving/arguing X y or Z to be impossible. It's up to the claimant to prove X Y Z is true. The concept is called, "the burden of proof" 
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RE: is my idea of the afterlife possible at all
March 20, 2012 at 8:04 pm
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Let me see if I'm understanding the question correctly. You're asking if there is any in principle reason why a process, consciousness, which we have only ever found in living brains and about which we understand very little, could be resurrected and sustained by a supernatural being about which we know even less after we die and outside of our brains. What objection could anyone raise that could possibly make what you propose seem anymore unlikely or farfetched than it already sounds on the face of it? I realize that you are positing a being that has it in his power to do any and everything. That was good thinking but how many of these have you or anyone else ever come across and how do you know they'd want to do this for us even if they could.
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