Communicating with Him

[Minimalist]

My missionary work apparently didn't count for anything though.

Nor does anyone else's

[Drich]

With all due respect, this almost sounds like the No True Scottsman fallacy. I was a reborn Christian and even saved up my pennies to do missionary work in Thailand.

How so? there are very finite and well defined parameters to define Christianity and the Christian faith. The no true Scotsman fallacy does not contained documented parameters.

Personally, I used to like Matthew's version because of the extra lines "your Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven".

In Luke the parable explains in great detail the premiseise in which you are to approach God and at the end issues a promise. (One you can hold God to) Mat's account does not.

My missionary work apparently didn't count for anything though.

I spent 8 years as one and truly believe I was as lost then as i was before I went to church. your work does not make you Christian. It is a matter your heart.

For we are told: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Here Christ describes those In the Faith who have done all of the Big ticket showings of christianity, and yet still do not know God. Again it is a matter of your heart and not your works.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

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If you think otherwise then please show one example in the NT that Christians are commanded to Murder. If you can not then know you are pulling an example outside of the contextually recorded Law or Expressed Will of God.

(I am looking for book chapter and verse)

I was just listening today to Price's "The Human Bible" podcast. In episode 2, he discusses Biblically mandated child sacrifice in the OT that was later replaced completely by animal sacrifice.

http://www.thehumanbible.net/episode_002/

One of the verses in question is Exodus 22:29: http://bible.cc/exodus/22-29.htm

Edit: OK, not NT. Missed that part. But still same God.

[FallentoReason]

How so? there are very finite and well defined parameters to define Christianity and the Christian faith. The no true Scotsman fallacy does not contained documented parameters.

Looking back at your first response to my post, I think I took it the wrong way and jumped the gun. My apologies.

But now you know that I was a reborn Christian, so if you were to say from now on that I didn't know how to do it or I wasn't doing it right then I think that falls under the No True Scotsman fallacy because you're excluding me from 'true Christians'.

In Luke the parable explains in great detail the premiseise in which you are to approach God and at the end issues a promise. (One you can hold God to) Mat's account does not.

Ok, fair enough.

I spent 8 years as one and truly believe I was as lost then as i was before I went to church. your work does not make you Christian. It is a matter your heart.

For we are told: 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Here Christ describes those In the Faith who have done all of the Big ticket showings of christianity, and yet still do not know God. Again it is a matter of your heart and not your works.

James 2:17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Apparently to show you have faith you still need to do works.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

See why Christians are reluctant to answer such questions.

Of course; for fear of the man with the butterfly net and anti psychotic medication.

[Zen Badger]

Since there are many passages in the bible where god commands his followers to kill in his name you might want to reconsider that statement.

This one?

For God will never tell someone to do something outside of what has been contextually recorded in the expressed will of God.

It means God will never tell anyone to Murder because He has commanded otherwise.

Really? And which bit of the bible is this from?

God gives this authority to the state to take life, but not to an individual.

If you think otherwise then please show one example in the NT that Christians are commanded to Murder. If you can not then know you are pulling an example outside of the contextually recorded Law or Expressed Will of God.

(I am looking for book chapter and verse)

Luke 19:27 " But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

And this is jesus speaking

[Jackalope]

Incoming apologetic in... 3.... 2.... 1.....

[Zen Badger]

Incoming apologetic in... 3.... 2.... 1.....

You're not reading it in context!

You don't understand the real meaning because you're not a christian!

And so on and so on, blah,blah,blah...........

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BTW Drich, why only the NT, why did you leave out the OT?

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Incoming apologetic in... 3.... 2.... 1.....

You're not reading it in context!

You don't understand the real meaning because you're not a christian!

And so on and so on, blah,blah,blah...........

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BTW Drich, why only the NT, why did you leave out the OT?

"Apologetics means never having to say you're sorry."

[Killman]

All of the 'responses' are the same shit that I have heard. Here is the problem, I was once a christian and god never spoke to me, ever. As much as I tried to, I never felt a presence. I realized that it is just a christian brainwash technique to make you think that you are communicating with something that isn't really there. The responses from the christians here are so fucking cliché and beyond stupid. You have NEVER communicated with your 'god' in any way and if you really think so, then how is that any different from being insane? This shit needs to be ridiculed, NOT respected in this society.