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Is Quran the proof of God?
RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
Always a pleasure to have the same conversation in two threads simultaneously.  I wonder if apologists go on the rag at the same time too? Sorry Atlas, it's just a fact. The early umma was largely illiterate and needed scribes and intelligentsia. They couldn't meet that need from within and so they had no choice but to "reach out".

...check your own link.......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
(January 17, 2016 at 4:19 am)Rhythm Wrote: Always a pleasure to have the same conversation in two threads simultaneously.  I wonder if apologists go on the rag at the same time too?  Sorry Atlas, it's just a fact. The early umma was largely illiterate and needed scribes and intelligentsia.  They couldn't meet that need from within and so they had no choice but to "reach out".

...check your own link.......

No. I have my period only in September.

I love how you talk about it with such confident trust. Was that the scenario with everybody ?
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RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
You go back and check that link yet, or are we done talking about that? Don't tell me you posted it, but didn't read it........I'd be shocked.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
(January 17, 2016 at 4:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: You go back and check that link yet, or are we done talking about that?  Don't tell me you posted it, but didn't read it........I'd be shocked.

I did read it, Rhythm. But, it's not like what you say is applied to every tiny single case.
Knowledge existed in sorrounding communities. But Islam made them blossom even more.
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(January 16, 2016 at 8:52 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 8:41 am)Irrational Wrote: So he CAN? That means he's not unconditionally all-powerful.
CAN and WILL are two different meanings. Can He create a higher being than Him? If He willed. But why do that because then He wouldn't be the Most High anymore and it would make no sense. And everything He does is sensible for He is the best of planners. U try to belittle God's supremacy to human standards. Some idiot human will let his ego get in the way and create a more powerful being than him just because someone says he CANT. But in the long run he belittles himself and no longer is the most high. God WONT do this because He knows He is The Supreme Being and nothing will ever surpass Him regardless of what anyone says. So we can submit to and worship Him alone in this life and be rewarded n the next. Or we can disbelieve in Him and His message and/or associate partners in worship with Him in this life and have the most humiliating painful punishment ever. But I guarantee this my friend if u don't call Him ur LORD in this lifeu definitely will in the next

What the fuck is wrong with you?  Just. . . no.  The caps, the spelling, the shitty ideas.  Just stop.  What are you going to achieve here but broadcasting your ignorance to the four corners of the world?
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RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
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RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
(January 17, 2016 at 4:52 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I did read it, Rhythm. But, it's not like what you say is applied to every tiny single case.
Knowledge existed in sorrounding communities. But Islam made them blossom even more.

No...neither the quran nor islam did any such thing.  An aggressive military state did such things, first by securing pre-existing knowledge and sources (the majority of "islamic science" being an issue of making copies rather than making discoveries).  Then, by co-opting the achievements of those groups it had subsumed by force. It's not as if there's any shame in this, the shame is all on your end for attempting to sell aggrandizing fantasy in contradiction to the very source you chose to present.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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You're sharing your belief with us but you didn't ask us if we wanted any?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
(January 16, 2016 at 8:52 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 8:41 am)Irrational Wrote: So he CAN? That means he's not unconditionally all-powerful.
CAN and WILL are two different meanings. Can He create a higher being than Him? If He willed. But why do that because then He wouldn't be the Most High anymore and it would make no sense. And everything He does is sensible for He is the best of planners. U try to belittle God's supremacy to human standards. Some idiot human will let his ego get in the way and create a more powerful being than him just because someone says he CANT. But in the long run he belittles himself and no longer is the most high. God WONT do this because He knows He is The Supreme Being and nothing will ever surpass Him regardless of what anyone says. So we can submit to and worship Him alone in this life and be rewarded n the next. Or we can disbelieve in Him and His message and/or associate partners in worship with Him in this life and have the most humiliating painful punishment ever. But I guarantee this my friend if u don't call Him ur LORD in this lifeu definitely will in the next

Sheed could you please stop shouting? We can see well enough in the normal size font, and for those of us visually impaired there is always 'Ctrl+' or a text to voice plug in.

But your stupid use of the xxlarge font isn't only aesthetically ugly, it makes you look like a toddler with impulse control problems.

P.S. Where's my shrubbery? Will I have to bring out the word on you?
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