Alcohol

[Polaris]

Why must it be haram?

Since I have never read more than a few words of the Qu'ran, can you post some of the verses demanding that alocohol not be consumed?

This was one of several reasons I did not pursue Islam....I did go through Ramadan years ago and celebrated the end by getting drunk....one Moslem never looked at me the same way again. That was when I decided Islam was not the way for me.

So it begs the question. Can one be Moslem and still drink?

[Tempus]

This was one of several reasons I did not pursue Islam....I did go through Ramadan years ago and celebrated the end by getting drunk....one Moslem never looked at me the same way again. That was when I decided Islam was not the way for me.

So a contributing factor to not looking into Islam was that you couldn't drink / get drunk? How does that have any bearing on whether it's true...

Anyhow, I'm sure there's a resident Muslim who can answer this for you

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Anyhow, I'm sure there's a resident Muslim who can answer this for you

I doubt Rayaan will bother with such a shallow fool.

[Napoléon]

Dude, be a rastafarian, not only do you get to drink but you get to smoke weed. Wayyyyyy better than Islam or Christianity.

[Gooders1002]

Well if they did drink alcohol the might be in danger of 'chill'in the fuck out'

[Jinkies]

Dude, be a rastafarian, not only do you get to drink but you get to smoke weed. Wayyyyyy better than Islam or Christianity.

In Christianity you can do the same things, though. All you have to do is say you're sorry and it's all good. He definitely picked a good religion if he's more interested in drunkenness than truthfulness.

Quick note: I'm also more interested in drunkenness than truthfulness. No judgment here.

[liam]

I don't really agree with alcohol, I know that would make me seem snooty and somewhat self-righteous but I'm certainly not. The problem I have with it is that the rationale of a person becomes compromised by drug use and I'd find it very hard to justify sacrificing what I'd consider to be the defining quality of humanity in order to simply be more social or have fun or whatever. No good may come of this.

[Polaris]

This was one of several reasons I did not pursue Islam....I did go through Ramadan years ago and celebrated the end by getting drunk....one Moslem never looked at me the same way again. That was when I decided Islam was not the way for me.

So a contributing factor to not looking into Islam was that you couldn't drink / get drunk? How does that have any bearing on whether it's true...

Anyhow, I'm sure there's a resident Muslim who can answer this for you

I did not feel that because I got drunk that I should still try to become a Moslem. I did not mean to get drunk, it just happened. It was college after-all.

Also I have a fondness for beer and was wondering if even one beer was considered haram. In some religions, getting drunk is the sin (you can drink in moderation though) and I want to know if that is true in Islam or if my understanding that even the tiniest amount of alcohol is the sin.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Why must it be haram?

Since I have never read more than a few words of the Qu'ran, can you post some of the verses demanding that alocohol not be consumed?

This was one of several reasons I did not pursue Islam....I did go through Ramadan years ago and celebrated the end by getting drunk....one Moslem never looked at me the same way again. That was when I decided Islam was not the way for me.

So it begs the question. Can one be Moslem and still drink?

Yes, one can drink and still be moslem.
However, by doing so, you're sinning, and must make a tövbe, renounce your prior sins and ask for forgiveness, and stop doing it. Then you are absolved of all prior sins.

There are no verses in the Qur'an that strictly prohibit drinking. However, the sunnah and hadith can be explained in the form that drinking alcohol is haram.

I am a heavy drinker, and was so ever since, just as my ancestors were heavy drinkers of kumyz made of mare's milk.
However, I must say that our non-moslem ancestors have also shunned drunkards and excessive drinking. I follow their example in not becoming drunk and shaming myself in that process, for I see people that act in ways that are shameful for a person to act in a drunken haze.

In my view, also in the views of Chingiss Khan, a man who drinks not, is a man of clear mind. But with peer pressure I feel compelled to having a few glasses of beer, or going further, bottles of wine and raki, and often take part in competitions between friends.
Why it has been made haram, we can not know for sure.
But we can all agree that drinking in itself is not the best act to be encouraged.

[Polaris]

Why must it be haram?

Since I have never read more than a few words of the Qu'ran, can you post some of the verses demanding that alocohol not be consumed?

This was one of several reasons I did not pursue Islam....I did go through Ramadan years ago and celebrated the end by getting drunk....one Moslem never looked at me the same way again. That was when I decided Islam was not the way for me.

So it begs the question. Can one be Moslem and still drink?

Yes, one can drink and still be moslem.
However, by doing so, you're sinning, and must make a tövbe, renounce your prior sins and ask for forgiveness, and stop doing it. Then you are absolved of all prior sins.

There are no verses in the Qur'an that strictly prohibit drinking. However, the sunnah and hadith can be explained in the form that drinking alcohol is haram.

I am a heavy drinker, and was so ever since, just as my ancestors were heavy drinkers of kumyz made of mare's milk.
However, I must say that our non-moslem ancestors have also shunned drunkards and excessive drinking. I follow their example in not becoming drunk and shaming myself in that process, for I see people that act in ways that are shameful for a person to act in a drunken haze.

In my view, also in the views of Chingiss Khan, a man who drinks not, is a man of clear mind. But with peer pressure I feel compelled to having a few glasses of beer, or going further, bottles of wine and raki, and often take part in competitions between friends.
Why it has been made haram, we can not know for sure.
But we can all agree that drinking in itself is not the best act to be encouraged.

Thanks for the input. I usually can go months without alcohol and usually that is only a beer or two, but even then, I would not feel the need to be repent so it would be extremely hypocritical for me to do so given my full intention to drink again at some later date.

I do want to try kumis one day.

Is the consumption of alcohol a big issue in Turkey?