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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 20, 2012 at 7:42 pm
(November 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: See the problems you run into when you conflate legality with morality? I would say that if we could convince everyone that the holocaust was "good" it would have a hell of a shot at being legal...which is precisely how that went down.
Nice godwin btw.
I'm sorry, but your "beliefs" make horrific crimes rationally justifiable.
It does not correspond to the real world.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 20, 2012 at 10:25 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2012 at 10:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It's a statement that doesn't require belief Vinny. The adoption of any given law does not make that law rationally justifiable by brute force of it's adoption. Focus Vinny, we're having a discussion about law. Law, not what is moral, not what is "good", not what is rationally justifiable, but what is legal (and in this case, how it might become so).
I think you need to take another look at the real world, because it does. But hey, trolls gotta troll.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 20, 2012 at 11:32 pm
(November 20, 2012 at 7:42 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I'm sorry, but your "beliefs" make horrific crimes rationally justifiable.
It does not correspond to the real world.
OK, I'll play along. You invoked the idea of 'horrific crime'. Please list for me all offences that constitue a 'horrific crime'. Your terminology, not mine; so, no bullshit about context or I'm taking you the wrong way. List the 'horrific crimes'.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 21, 2012 at 12:40 am
Of the Christian values (perhaps late Judaism since it is speculated Jesus' sermon was in light of changing perceptions in the view of marriage) present in Western society, the concept of a monogamous marriage (free of concubines) is the most glaring.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 21, 2012 at 12:55 am
(November 20, 2012 at 11:32 pm)cato123 Wrote: (November 20, 2012 at 7:42 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I'm sorry, but your "beliefs" make horrific crimes rationally justifiable.
It does not correspond to the real world.
OK, I'll play along. You invoked the idea of 'horrific crime'. Please list for me all offences that constitue a 'horrific crime'. Your terminology, not mine; so, no bullshit about context or I'm taking you the wrong way. List the 'horrific crimes'.
Are you thick?
I'm using his value system not mine.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 21, 2012 at 1:11 am
(November 21, 2012 at 12:55 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Are you thick?
I'm using his value system not mine.
Thick as a brick (although I maintain that side one was far superior to the flip side).
You and Rhythm were having a debate about justice and fairness as they pertained to morality and law. I would have let his go, but your invocation of 'horrific crime' piqued my interest. So.....
Quit deflecting and list what you consider to be 'horrific crimes'.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 21, 2012 at 4:03 am
(November 21, 2012 at 1:11 am)cato123 Wrote: (November 21, 2012 at 12:55 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Are you thick?
I'm using his value system not mine.
Thick as a brick (although I maintain that side one was far superior to the flip side).
You and Rhythm were having a debate about justice and fairness as they pertained to morality and law. I would have let his go, but your invocation of 'horrific crime' piqued my interest. So.....
Quit deflecting and list what you consider to be 'horrific crimes'.
Serial-toddler-punching.
Superior in what way?
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 21, 2012 at 10:08 am
If you'd care to explain how a law that makes serial toddler punching legal makes serial toddler punching rationally justifiable, that would be just swell. Take your time, you'll need it.
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RE: Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry
November 21, 2012 at 4:03 pm
(November 21, 2012 at 10:08 am)Rhythm Wrote: If you'd care to explain how a law that makes serial toddler punching legal makes serial toddler punching rationally justifiable, that would be just swell. Take your time, you'll need it.
How is that relevant?
You have justified using religious values to govern a society. Ie, you would have no problem with a theocracy.
You're a poe. Stop changing the subject.
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