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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 7:29 pm
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(May 24, 2012 at 7:25 pm)Shell B Wrote: (May 24, 2012 at 7:18 pm)Phil Wrote: Shell,
It is the forebrain, most of the skull and scalp that is missing. If you think all babies born with anencephaly die it is you who are very wrong. Look up Nicholas Coke and explain how his brainstem let him die considering he is alive after 4 years.
And most of the rest of the brain as well. My source is the CDC, Phil. At any rate, Nicholas Coke would not be alive without life saving measures. The same applied to Baby K. These babies are not aware and would die were it not for modern medicine. He will die soon enough, though. His heart will give out or his respiratory system will fail. It's inevitable.
Quote:With the assistance of the cerebellum, the cerebrum controls all voluntary actions in the body.
Read your own damn link on the functions of the brainstem. The brainstem controls awareness and consciousness. Considering you have that wrong I find it pretty comical that you insist you are correct on the rest.
BTW Shell, the forebrain consists of the cerebrum, cerebral cortex and hemispheres thalamus, hypothalamus, among a few other parts. See why I say google isn't science?
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 7:40 pm
(May 24, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Phil Wrote: Read your own damn link on the functions of the brainstem. The brainstem controls awareness and consciousness. Considering you have that wrong I find it pretty comical that you insist you are correct on the rest.
Seriously? For crying out loud. The brain stem relays these things! Without an area to relay them to, the baby is not aware! Fuck, if you want to go with all of the functions of the brain stem without considering the rest of the motherfucking brain, we could say these babies are completely normal. I find it pretty fucking obnoxious that I would even have to insist on a well known medical fact being correct. Ask a fucking doctor, Phil. These babies do not feel pain or become conscious.
Quote:However, the lack of a working cerebrum
entirely rules out the possibility of ever gaining consciousness.
http://www.in.gov/isdh/files/anencephaly.pdf
Chowderhead.
Quote:BTW Shell, the forebrain consists of the cerebrum, cerebral cortex and hemispheres thalamus, hypothalamus, among a few other parts. See why I say google isn't science?
Why are you so quick to argue? Fucking read first. I know what the forebrain consists of. Withfuckingout it, the brain stem is only able to handle certain functions. It is like having a telephone that is not hooked up. See why I say rageaholics should think before they type? Well, I only just started saying that. Thank you for setting the precedence.
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2012 at 7:51 pm by Phil.)
(May 24, 2012 at 7:40 pm)Shell B Wrote: (May 24, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Phil Wrote: Read your own damn link on the functions of the brainstem. The brainstem controls awareness and consciousness. Considering you have that wrong I find it pretty comical that you insist you are correct on the rest.
Seriously? For crying out loud. The brain stem relays these things! Without an area to relay them to, the baby is not aware! Fuck, if you want to go with all of the functions of the brain stem without considering the rest of the motherfucking brain, we could say these babies are completely normal. I find it pretty fucking obnoxious that I would even have to insist on a well known medical fact being correct. Ask a fucking doctor, Phil. These babies do not feel pain or become conscious.
Quote:However, the lack of a working cerebrum
entirely rules out the possibility of ever gaining consciousness.
http://www.in.gov/isdh/files/anencephaly.pdf
Chowderhead.
Quote:BTW Shell, the forebrain consists of the cerebrum, cerebral cortex and hemispheres thalamus, hypothalamus, among a few other parts. See why I say google isn't science?
Why are you so quick to argue? Fucking read first. I know what the forebrain consists of. Withfuckingout it, the brain stem is only able to handle certain functions. It is like having a telephone that is not hooked up. See why I say rageaholics should think before they type? Well, I only just started saying that. Thank you for setting the precedence.
Shell,
My last word on this is that you have no idea about neuroscience nor the anatomy or function of the human brain.
Here is Nicholas Coke. Unconscious and unaware.
Learn something about anencephaly before you keep saying dumb things.
Not sure what Shell is on about but in anencephapy what I said is missing, is what is missing. There is a midbrain, hindbrain and brainstem.
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Yes, and nor do all of the doctors that say he is unconscious and unaware. Every single doctor who deals with this knows jack shit about anatomy. You, Phil know everything. I backed my claims up with supporting links. What have you got? Oh, yes, perpetual righteous anger. Hope that gets you laid. For fuck's sake, who argues a known medical fact for the sake of arguing? You know what, pneumonia doesn't make fluid build up in the lungs.
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 8:02 pm
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(May 24, 2012 at 7:42 pm)Phil Wrote: Here is Nicholas Coke. Unconscious and unaware.
Are you lumping reflex response to environmental stimulus such as sound, touch and sight with consciousness?
It is well known that extremely severely brain damaged individual in vegetative state will track moving objects with their eyes and respond reflexively to sound and touch. Are they conscious when they do so?
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 8:11 pm
(May 24, 2012 at 8:02 pm)Chuck Wrote: Are you sure you are not lumping reflex response to sound, touch as sight with consciousness?
It is well known that extremely severely brain damaged individual in vegetative state will track moving objects with their eyes and respond reflexively to sound and touch.
Yes I am sure. Shell didn't read the word usually in the googlescience she thinks is valid. I mean sure, babies born with anencephaly usually die within hours or days but you just saw a picture of one at 2 years of age and that was taken two years ago. Yes, he is still alive.
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 24, 2012 at 8:28 pm
The prognosis is death without medical intervention. These children would die without help. What part of that is difficult for you to understand? Most of them do die even with medical intervention and the child you are citing surely will. I did read the "googlescience." Beats the hell out of "Phil said so, so it must be true."
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 25, 2012 at 1:26 am
Quote:Without an area to relay them to, the baby is not aware!
The "baby" is essentially a hamburger without the bun.
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 25, 2012 at 3:42 am
Sadly, it's true. These children only respond to stimuli and are incapable of abstract thought.
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RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
May 25, 2012 at 10:35 am
Nah, it's not true. Phil is the ultimate authority.
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