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Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
#11
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
To answer the question in the heading; no.
Nor should women rule over men.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#12
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Those women who want to be equal with men, should be equal with men to an extent (I am against women serving on-board submarines with men and should have their own command, but that is the only issue I have).

Those who want to be housewives, should be allowed to do so as well. Men who want to be househusbands likewise should be given the right, which is why I am supportive of the Western European governments.

I despise the Democratic women who trash other women just because they want to stick with traditional values.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#13
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Quote:(waiting to see if you ask what that means or if you are going to assert you very own meaning to what was said.)

Who gives a shit what you think?
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#14
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
(May 25, 2012 at 4:09 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:
(May 24, 2012 at 6:03 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Woman should have equal rights and power of men, Woman are no better and no worse. anything a man can do so can a woman and vice versa.

I agree.

Regards
DL
(May 24, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Shell B Wrote: Having equal rights is necessary for a fair world. However, men who want to dominate willing women and willing women who want to be dominated should be able to do what they want as well. Some people are too insecure to lead their lives without the guidance of others. Some people like to be that guidance over helpless females.

(Note: No I do not want to be dominated by anyone but Tiberius. Tongue )

We all have our own standards yes and that is why I do not to see churches denying women the standards of subservience that they choose to live under.

Regards
DL


(May 24, 2012 at 7:44 pm)Drich Wrote: No. Man should rule over women LIKE Christ Rules over the Church.
(waiting to see if you ask what that means or if you are going to assert you very own meaning to what was said.)

Which scriptures? From the Koran?

I think you have misrepresented scripture in such a way as to rally the troops against God and His commands.

Follow the commands of God to the best of his ability

follow the commands of God to the best of her abilities.

Free from what? your perception of God? Funny how you did not incorporate any scriptures here.


Are you inferring this is a bible verse of some kind or a general principle from God? Book Chapter and verse please.

Just common sense and tradition.

Regards
DL

So this whole thing is your personal perception of Christian values towards women? Based on what? Movies and TV?

We are to love and respect our women as Christ Loved and respected the Church. That mean if it comes down to it was are to be beaten and crucified for them Literally. How does a man willing subject himself to one of the worst forms of death, for another and not love and respect that person?

Yet common sense, and your understanding of tradition trumps the actual guide lines of Christianity so you can make an argument against God.

Well played.
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#15
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Quote:Which scriptures? From the Koran?

There are fuckloads from the Bible and a few Quran that say women should serve men, or are inferior.

1 Tim 2:12-14 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man

Quran, 2:228 : And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them
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#16
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Well, I rather have mutural respect and responsibilities in a marriage. Those who wish to take the leading hand...Well, do so, but have trouble afterwards.
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#17
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
(May 24, 2012 at 7:44 pm)Drich Wrote:
Quote:Scriptures, and other myth’s, say that God determined that men should rule over women.
Which scriptures? From the Koran?

There are plenty to choose from:

Bible - http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/women/long.html

Quran - http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/women/long.html

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#18
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Men have many attributes that women are unable to match; Women have many attributes that men are unable to match. Equal pay for equal work, neither one above the other, working TOGETHER for a common goal. This I feel is what it is all about.

BOTH can survive quite well sans the other...but together? Awesomeness!! Big Grin
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#19
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
Should man rule over women for women’s own good?


If I tried this I'd never have sex again.



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RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
(May 26, 2012 at 5:52 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?


If I tried this I'd never have sex again.

No truer word has been spoken DBP!! Tongue
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