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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 2:23 am
Quote:God is almighty, not omnipoten
A distinction which seems to exist in only your head. When you can convince Merriam-Webster that your definition is correct then you can get back to me.
For now, its a fictional character and you can give it whatever super powers you like. You can have god shit kryptonite and make him more powerful that superman if you wish.
Just don't expect me to take you seriously.
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 3:16 am
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(May 31, 2012 at 2:23 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:God is almighty, not omnipoten
A distinction which seems to exist in only your head. When you can convince Merriam-Webster that your definition is correct then you can get back to me.
For now, its a fictional character and you can give it whatever super powers you like. You can have god shit kryptonite and make him more powerful that superman if you wish.
Just don't expect me to take you seriously.
Indeed. The the broadest Christian view is that God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, which leads to the famous observation by Epicurus:
Quote:Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
-Epicurus, 341 BC, Samos – 270 BC, Athens
PS Was that quote from Drip? I've had him on ignore for ages,he's an even bigger fool than GC,but with the same credibility (none)
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 7:04 am
(May 31, 2012 at 2:10 am)Drich Wrote: God is almighty, not omnipotent. Doh, that was a fail on your part. >.<
Almighty
Adjective: Having complete power; omnipotent.
You need to revise your post and change the attributes of your god to "most powerful" not almighty. I personally recommend you pick transfinitely powerful rather than infinitely powerful.
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 11:50 am
What you all Fail to comperhend is that aside for the popular defination of Omnipotent, is the doctrine or idea of Omnipotence that says; God is not or can not be Governed by even His own defining qualities or attributes. otherwise He loses your bogus understanding of the term. This very thread points out that God is subject to His own Character. Therefore He (by your own Merriam-Webster defination) Can not assume the title. So what can be said? God is Almighty, in that He has the ablity or all the power needed to perform any task that is with in His own will. Meaning God is not bound by the doctrine or popular understanding of the word omnipotent.
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 12:06 pm
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(May 31, 2012 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: What you all Fail to comperhend is that aside for the popular defination of Omnipotent, is the doctrine or idea of Omnipotence that says; God is not or can not be Governed by even His own defining qualities or attributes. otherwise He loses your bogus understanding of the term. This very thread points out that God is subject to His own Character. Therefore He (by your own Merriam-Webster defination) Can not assume the title. So what can be said? God is Almighty, in that He has the ablity or all the power needed to perform any task that is with in His own will. Meaning God is not bound by the doctrine or popular understanding of the word omnipotent.
In other words, god is allowed to be whatever appears, at the moment, convenient for you to claim him to be, so that you and your ilk can give yourself the maximum flexibility, by the back door, in dodging the demand for scrutinizing your religious idiocy with the sort of rigor even kindergardeners might apply to unsolicited claim of overwhelming beneficience.
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Aptly summarized, Chuck.
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 2:16 pm
(May 31, 2012 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: What you all Fail to comperhend is that aside for the popular defination of Omnipotent, is the doctrine or idea of Omnipotence that says; God is not or can not be Governed by even His own defining qualities or attributes. otherwise He loses your bogus understanding of the term. This very thread points out that God is subject to His own Character. Therefore He (by your own Merriam-Webster defination) Can not assume the title. So what can be said? God is Almighty, in that He has the ablity or all the power needed to perform any task that is with in His own will. Meaning God is not bound by the doctrine or popular understanding of the word omnipotent.
So god can not be defined by what defines him?
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 3:59 pm
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(May 31, 2012 at 12:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Aptly summarized, Chuck.
Yes. Rather a sweet turn of phrase.
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(May 31, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Tobie Wrote: (May 31, 2012 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: What you all Fail to comperhend is that aside for the popular defination of Omnipotent, is the doctrine or idea of Omnipotence that says; God is not or can not be Governed by even His own defining qualities or attributes. otherwise He loses your bogus understanding of the term. This very thread points out that God is subject to His own Character. Therefore He (by your own Merriam-Webster defination) Can not assume the title. So what can be said? God is Almighty, in that He has the ablity or all the power needed to perform any task that is with in His own will. Meaning God is not bound by the doctrine or popular understanding of the word omnipotent.
So god can not be defined by what defines him?
That is why he is an unfathomable mystery.
Except that Christians say they can fathom the unfathomable.
But you have to believe before you get your decoder ring.
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 9:43 pm
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(May 31, 2012 at 12:06 pm)Chuck Wrote: (May 31, 2012 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: What you all Fail to comperhend is that aside for the popular defination of Omnipotent, is the doctrine or idea of Omnipotence that says; God is not or can not be Governed by even His own defining qualities or attributes. otherwise He loses your bogus understanding of the term. This very thread points out that God is subject to His own Character. Therefore He (by your own Merriam-Webster defination) Can not assume the title. So what can be said? God is Almighty, in that He has the ablity or all the power needed to perform any task that is with in His own will. Meaning God is not bound by the doctrine or popular understanding of the word omnipotent.
In other words, god is allowed to be whatever appears, at the moment, convenient for you to claim him to be, so that you and your ilk can give yourself the maximum flexibility, by the back door, in dodging the demand for scrutinizing your religious idiocy with the sort of rigor even kindergardeners might apply to unsolicited claim of overwhelming beneficience.
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So, because you as an Atheist are not able to recognize, the recorded nature of God (as recorded by the bible) you believe anything outside your current understanding of God avoids scrutiny, Seriously? What if.. Your current understanding of God is shakey at best, and God is simply not the being/deity you have false judged and identified? Perhaps your "scrutiny" is simply misplaced, and you are attempting to scrutinize something of your own understanding, rather than the recorded nature of God.
(May 31, 2012 at 3:59 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: That is why he is an unfathomable mystery.Except that Christians say they can fathom the unfathomable. So you are the bench mark of the available knowledge of God? Because you judge God to be completely unfathomable, then no one has any hope in knowing anything about God?
God has revealed Himself, in the bible. If you wish to know something about God's revealed nature, then perhaps you should have simply asked someone who has actually studied the bible rather than cobbled together their own version of God just to take it apart.
(May 31, 2012 at 2:16 pm)Tobie Wrote: (May 31, 2012 at 11:50 am)Drich Wrote: What you all Fail to comperhend is that aside for the popular defination of Omnipotent, is the doctrine or idea of Omnipotence that says; God is not or can not be Governed by even His own defining qualities or attributes. otherwise He loses your bogus understanding of the term. This very thread points out that God is subject to His own Character. Therefore He (by your own Merriam-Webster defination) Can not assume the title. So what can be said? God is Almighty, in that He has the ablity or all the power needed to perform any task that is with in His own will. Meaning God is not bound by the doctrine or popular understanding of the word omnipotent.
So god can not be defined by what defines him?
What do you think Defines God?
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RE: God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.
May 31, 2012 at 10:26 pm
al·might·y (ôl-mt)
adj.
1. Having absolute power; all-powerful: almighty God.
What dumbass.\
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