RE: Atheism: The True Path?
June 25, 2009 at 5:05 pm
(June 25, 2009 at 3:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 24, 2009 at 3:11 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: No they don't ... here for example is just one such Christian IOW not ALL Christians support the NIV as the one true bible.
Yep, I'm fine with that. Everyone of course is entitled to their opinion.
I'll take it then that you accept you were wrong to assert that all Christians accept the NIV as the "authoritative" bible ... the trouble with you is that you'll admit something and then as blandly deny it or twist it or whatever it is you do ... it drives me fucking barmy.
(June 25, 2009 at 3:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 24, 2009 at 3:11 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Of course I am interpreting, I said I am not merely interpreting: IOW there are things about the genesis account that are undeniable ... it says DAYS, it doesn't say weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millennia or any other time periods, IT SAYS DAYS.
Does it mean that though? I personally don't think so.
IOW
YOU are interpreting it to mean something other than it says whereas
I am not really *interpreting* it (at least that bit) at all.
Kyuuketsuki Wrote:Furthermore there are things that DO NOT reflect the scientific explanation of how life came to be ... the bible is not a science book and it is NOT an accurate representation of what is understood to have occurred on this planet.
Agreed.
(June 25, 2009 at 3:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 24, 2009 at 3:11 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT THE "DAYS" ARE METAPHORICAL IN GENESIS.
In Genesis 1:11/12 on the 3rd day God created vegetation that bore fruit over generations. It isn't talking about the word for 'day' actually meaning 24 hours. The bible does not say here that a day = 24 hours. The Hebrew word 'yom' can mean 12 hours (sunrise to sunset), 24 hours, or a long, undefined period of time. Genesis 2:4 refers to all 6 days of creation as one day, for example.
Yom Kippur is the tenth and final day of the Ten Days of Repentance, Yom HaShoah is Holocaust Day, Yom Yerushalayim is Jerusalem Day, Yom Teruah is the Day of Trumpets, Yavo Yom means a Day will come ... even your quoted passage clearly refers to days as the primary definition of Yom.
Add to that, according to Answers In Creation "Yom" means a 24 hour period ... so who am I to believe Frodo? You? The fact that your bible clearly says DAYS or the creationists?
(June 25, 2009 at 3:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (June 24, 2009 at 3:11 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: If you heard an almost exact account then fine but I hope you are not implying I plagiarised that piece because I did not ... I wrote it all myself.
Of course not no. Impressive piece of work BTW.
Aw gee ... tanks
Kyu