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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 19, 2009 at 8:31 am
Or a Basque.
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 21, 2009 at 12:56 am
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(June 18, 2009 at 5:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 18, 2009 at 4:10 pm)LukeMC Wrote: Are you trying to imply a link between islam and terror? Surely not No of course not! It's a complete coincidence that 100% of the world's terrorists are Muslims...
So what about the IRA, the guy that blew up the FBI building in America, the White supremacist who shot up the war memeorial, plus all the rest.
This is a very closed minded opinion, and dosen't help the situation at hand.
Unless, of course, if you are joking around.
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 21, 2009 at 2:50 am
(June 18, 2009 at 5:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (June 18, 2009 at 4:10 pm)LukeMC Wrote: Are you trying to imply a link between islam and terror? Surely not No of course not! It's a complete coincidence that 100% of the world's terrorists are Muslims...
WOW! Really?
I had no idea that the entire armed forces of the US were Muslim. They're NOT terrorists? What else would you call troops of a country which illegally invaded and occupied your country?
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 21, 2009 at 10:44 am
Hmmm... following that logic;
United Kingdom, Canada, Saudi, India, Philippines, Australia, Romainia, El Salvador, Estonia, Bulgaria, Moldova, Albania, Ukraine, Denmark, Czech Republic, South Korea, Japan, Tonga, Azerbaijan, Singapore, Bosnia, Macedonia, Latvia, Poland, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Mongolia and Georgia are all a bunch of illegally country invading terrorists.
You really contending every trooper from all the listed countries are terrorists?
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 21, 2009 at 3:05 pm
@padriac
Please explain how invading a country (whether illegally or not) constitutes terrorism. Terrorism by definition is the "intentional use or threat to use violence against civilians and non-combatants in order to achieve political goals" (Wikipedia).
As far as everyone is aware, civilians were not targeted intentionally during the Iraq war. We invaded their country to take down a vicious dictator. Wars always bring about casualties, both military and civilian. Now I'm as anti-war as a lot of people, but to say that the Iraq war was terrorism is just plain silly. There were legitimate reasons for invading (to get rid of Saddam), and even if people did just do it for oil (which I don't believe for a second), the outcome shows that the war was justified.
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 21, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Tiberius......Were you a Bush and Blair Supporter.....LOLLOLOL....
North Korea is where the U.S. should have put their time and efforts towards......Not Iraq......
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 22, 2009 at 5:50 am
(June 21, 2009 at 8:48 pm)Samson Wrote: Tiberius......Were you a Bush and Blair Supporter.....LOLLOLOL.... I was neither. I just agree that the Iraq war did more good than bad. If they had said from the beginning that they were invading to take down a dictator rather than "looking for WMDs" which they obviously didn't have, then they would have had my full support.
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North Korea is where the U.S. should have put their time and efforts towards......Not Iraq......
Whilst I agree with you, I do find it a little hypocritical for nations with nukes to say to other ones "You can't have them". Why can America have nukes? Have they seriously provided evidence that they are so sensible a country they wouldn't launch them? No. In fact the only nukes ever launched at countries have been from America. I'm a supporter of total nuclear disarmament, and nothing less.
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 22, 2009 at 7:35 am
(June 22, 2009 at 5:50 am)Tiberius Wrote: ....for nations with nukes to say to other ones "You can't have them". Why can America have nukes?
Because America has nukes. Simple
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 22, 2009 at 10:24 am
Tiberius Wrote:Quote:
North Korea is where the U.S. should have put their time and efforts towards......Not Iraq......
Whilst I agree with you, I do find it a little hypocritical for nations with nukes to say to other ones "You can't have them". Why can America have nukes? Have they seriously provided evidence that they are so sensible a country they wouldn't launch them? No. In fact the only nukes ever launched at countries have been from America. I'm a supporter of total nuclear disarmament, and nothing less.
YES YES YESSS. I completely agree with you and this is what I've always said. Why is America special? We are not. I have no idea why America has this ellitist attitude. We are just as fucked as everyone else.
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RE: *shock horror!* A convert to Islam was plotting a terrorist attack!
June 22, 2009 at 10:31 am
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(June 22, 2009 at 10:24 am)Rockthatpiano06 Wrote: YES YES YESSS. I completely agree with you and this is what I've always said. Why is America special? We are not. I have no idea why America has this ellitist attitude. We are just as fucked as everyone else.
Bingo!
I don't see america as special or good enough to have nuclear weapons. So far the US is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons on others. I sometimes get the impretion that the US is in charge or something. Like they know it all.
Nuclear disarmament would be best for us all.
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