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Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
#71
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
Ehrman's quote was specific. If you get your fucking head out of your..... bible....maybe you wouldn't miss so much.
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#72
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
... yes, yes I can be.
Next question.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#73
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
Yep, I can be. Anecdotes are not evidence.
Religion is not the answer-it is the problem. Everything considered, we would be better off without it.~Baubles of Blasphemy~Edwin F. Kagin

"Much better to have the ability to think critically, than the ability to quote scripture. One says you have a functioning mind. The other says you're a parrot." -- The Secular Buddhist
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#74
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
(June 16, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:
(June 16, 2012 at 10:02 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Me? Still 100% atheist.

Is it me or is Hoppimike coming across as a theist pretending to be an atheist converting to theism? I call hoax.

Yup, I'm with you.

Yeah, that is how I interpret his post, but I figured I would just make fun of him instead of calling him out.
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#75
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
Or maybe I'm just an open-minded agnostic? Smile

Is that really this difficult to grasp? >.<

And erm... I thought Corinthians and Mark were both written within 100 years of his death?

I watched some vids about DMT too and I must say it's amazing stuff and I think goes a long way to explaining at least the 4 minute NDEs. But what about people who come back after longer periods of being "dead"?

And man I really wanna take DMT lol

In some ways it's kinda sad though.. it seems to be able to trick you into thinking you're seeing the afterlife >.<

I'm sure people who actually die have DMT trips first too. Wow, how scary...

The illusion of an afterlife and then you die? That doesn't sound good >.<
"Minds are like parachutes - they both work best when open."

My favourite pro-atheism video - [amoff]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQJrud71gL8[/amoff]
My favourite pro-theism video - [amoff]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqhGRD25h2A[/amoff]
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#76
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
(June 17, 2012 at 4:54 am)hoppimike Wrote: Or maybe I'm just an open-minded agnostic? Smile

Is that really this difficult to grasp? >.<

And erm... I thought Corinthians and Mark were both written within 100 years of his death?

I watched some vids about DMT too and I must say it's amazing stuff and I think goes a long way to explaining at least the 4 minute NDEs. But what about people who come back after longer periods of being "dead"?

And man I really wanna take DMT lol

In some ways it's kinda sad though.. it seems to be able to trick you into thinking you're seeing the afterlife >.<

I'm sure people who actually die have DMT trips first too. Wow, how scary...

The illusion of an afterlife and then you die? That doesn't sound good >.<

Sure, so you're and open minded agnostic. Yet, in your question you write "11 years of 99% atheism, " accompanied by silly pro Christian videos. Based on the evidence you've submitted, you're either a liar or dumb. Nothing personal of course.
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#77
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?



OoooOOoooOOOoooooOOOOoooooOOOoooh.......

90 minutes of crap.




Scary!


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#78
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
(June 16, 2012 at 10:29 pm)hoppimike Wrote: When I mentioned "good counter-evidence" I really meant stuff like evidence for Jesus (which a lot of atheists I know (certainly not everyone - every atheist is different, ofc) don't even seem to want to learn about at all, they just push it away!) and NDEs (again, a lot of people push them away before even really knowing what things like DMT and hypoxia ARE... lol).
I am fascinated by religion. I spent 12 years of my life studying it at school, I've read the Bible, I've got the Koran on my Kindle (I plan to read it next), I've read over half the books about christianity held at my local library and many other books about various religions.

So yeah, I would be very very interested in the evidence you say you have for Jesus. I have looked for some myself, and not found anything besides hearsay.
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#79
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
(June 17, 2012 at 4:54 am)hoppimike Wrote: The illusion of an afterlife and then you die? That doesn't sound good >.<

Did you know that the human mind becomes extremely active just before death?
In fact it becomes very active in any situation that causes a rush of adrenaline.

Do you fear death by any chance? Like when you look at a grave and know that one day, you'll be down there too. I mean, I can understand if you do but what I can say to give you a sense of comfort is that you won't even be aware that you're dead. Just like being asleep, except no dreaming and no waking up.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#80
RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
(June 17, 2012 at 4:54 am)hoppimike Wrote: Or maybe I'm just an open-minded agnostic? Smile

Is that really this difficult to grasp? >.<

And erm... I thought Corinthians and Mark were both written within 100 years of his death?

I watched some vids about DMT too and I must say it's amazing stuff and I think goes a long way to explaining at least the 4 minute NDEs. But what about people who come back after longer periods of being "dead"?

And man I really wanna take DMT lol

In some ways it's kinda sad though.. it seems to be able to trick you into thinking you're seeing the afterlife >.<

I'm sure people who actually die have DMT trips first too. Wow, how scary...

The illusion of an afterlife and then you die? That doesn't sound good >.<

Woah, wait. Who are these people who have been dead for a long time, then came back? If you are talking about people waking up in morgues, there are well documented and verified cases of a rare form of cataplexy, which leaves the sufferer appearing as though dead. Some of these people have experienced multiple occurrences; however, for most it is a one off.

As for DMT, you really should try it. Make sure you're with an experienced user, though.
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