Homosexuality

[Dotard]

I maintain if one slaps tongues with a member of the same sex then there exists homosexuality.

I have openmouthed passionate kissed women and was not turned on. That means nothing.

The mere willingness to do this implies homosexuality.

What sexism? Where? The giggity giggity stuff?

[amw79]

Amw79,

You have to look at the "Atheism Is A White Supremacist Ideology!" thread which was cut from this thread to fully understand Anto's banning. Weird rant about how atheism is somehow related to racism.

Rhizo

Aah, I did glance over that bizarre thread, presumably before Anto's ranting started. CHeers Rhizo

[Eilonnwy]

As the one who banned Anto for a week, I stand by my decision. I fully explained my stance on homosexuality earlier on and pointed Anto to it, so he got a valid response to his objections. His statements after that and in the split thread ultimately lead to the banning. Hopefully Anto will have learned his lesson and tone down his blatant bigotry against homosexuals and atheists.

Dotard: Just because you insist doesn't make it so. You are applying a double standard and I don't appreciate it.

[fr0d0]

Thanks for the explanation Eilonnwy. Anto responded to your linked reasoning and made points in refutation which were unchallenged. Therefore I don't see your bigotry accusation holds water.

[leo-rcc]

I do. And so did more members of the staff. I think the ban on Anto was deserved. To be honest more than your ban was.

[Tiberius]

Thanks for the explanation Eilonnwy. Anto responded to your linked reasoning and made points in refutation which were unchallenged. Therefore I don't see your bigotry accusation holds water.

Bigotry:

Homosexuality, as I define it, is a lifestyle. I should have defined my understanding of Homosexuality first. Homosexual behaviours, as opposed to lifestyle, are natural and harmless really. The lifestyle on the other hand, it may be un-pc to say this, is a social maladaption and developmental disorder....in my opinion of course.

But the lifestyle, the behaviour, the social effect of homosexuality is destructive.

The scientific community needs to grow some balls and state facts, not pander to a bunch of raging queers.

[Dotard]

You are applying a double standard and I don't appreciate it.

What I said about open mouthed kissing members of the same sex applies to males and females.

[Eilonnwy]

Thanks Adrian, you made my point for me.

Dotard: So if a gay or lesbian can kiss someone of the opposite sex they are a little bit straight? We recognize that gays and lesbians who live a straight life to conform to standards, because they are afraid to come out doesn't make them any less gay. You in fact made a distasteful joke about it and showed the double standard. It almost seems like you're making the "Little bit black, amkes you all black" argument.

Sexuality is not as simple as you make it to be. People can commit acts that don't define their sexuality depending on the situation.

[fr0d0]

Bigotry:

Homosexuality, as I define it, is a lifestyle. I should have defined my understanding of Homosexuality first. Homosexual behaviours, as opposed to lifestyle, are natural and harmless really. The lifestyle on the other hand, it may be un-pc to say this, is a social maladaption and developmental disorder....in my opinion of course.

But the lifestyle, the behaviour, the social effect of homosexuality is destructive.

The scientific community needs to grow some balls and state facts, not pander to a bunch of raging queers.

My point is those opinions need addressing & not sweeping under the carpet. I agree with Anto that pro homosexuality is the fashionable worldview. That doesn't make it right, and we shouldn't be afraid or hit with a big stick for discussing it/ wanting to discuss it.

To quote the Meriam-Webster Dictionary:
"Bigot : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

So that's simply someone who disagrees with the majority viewpoint then?

[Eilonnwy]

Fr0d0, as someone who's experienced bigotry first hand for being bisexual, I can tell you that the statements Anto made are clearly bigoted. When you deny what the scientific community says and say they are pandering to "raging queers" it's bigoted. There's no discussion that can happen after that point. His card hand has been shown.