This is What Global Warming Looks Like

[KichigaiNeko]

SNAFU here in Oz. Just waiting now for the next round of drought and flooding rains... meh

[Annik]

It has been consistently in the mid-90s here in FL. It's usually in the upper-80s this time of year. I have been melting between the uncreased heat and the unrelenting humidity.

Low hundreds here in Texas. Although we probably lose to Florida in humidity it is pretty humid here too.

My mother-in-law told me it was 100 in Orlando on Saturday, but I can't be sure she wasn't exaggerating. The heat was very oppressive, though. And Texas traditionally has higher temperature than Florida, but sometimes it feels like you're swimming through the air, instead of walking. Have you guys at least had some rain?

[libalchris]

My mother-in-law told me it was 100 in Orlando on Saturday, but I can't be sure she wasn't exaggerating. The heat was very oppressive, though. And Texas traditionally has higher temperature than Florida, but sometimes it feels like you're swimming through the air, instead of walking. Have you guys at least had some rain?

Yeah we've gotten some rain. I can't tell if it's more or less than usual since all I can remember is the drought we had last year where we didn't get a single drop of rain for so long.

[Annik]

My mother-in-law told me it was 100 in Orlando on Saturday, but I can't be sure she wasn't exaggerating. The heat was very oppressive, though. And Texas traditionally has higher temperature than Florida, but sometimes it feels like you're swimming through the air, instead of walking. Have you guys at least had some rain?

Yeah we've gotten some rain. I can't tell if it's more or less than usual since all I can remember is the drought we had last year where we didn't get a single drop of rain for so long.

I'm sure there is weather data somewhere on the internet. You can stack up average monthly rainfall against what has actually fallen. :3

[Welsh cake]

Global warming? Its pissing down here in the good old miserable UK, same as bloody always.

I do my recycling anyway

Well we wouldn't want to spoil the illusion that you're actually helping the environment now would we?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/s...ment.china

Climate changes, that's just nature in action. Its our fucking garbage I'm worried about.

[KichigaiNeko]

Global warming? Its pissing down here in the good old miserable UK, same as bloody always.

I do my recycling anyway

Well we wouldn't want to spoil the illusion that you're actually helping the environment now would we?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/s...ment.china

Climate changes, that's just nature in action. Its our fucking garbage I'm worried about.

Totally agree there mate...fucking freezing here with "record Lows" (seriously see inverted commas) What a joke.

How about we just clean up our rooms?? Hmm? And stop being pretentious prats.

[Polaris]

The people who whine about this being Global Warming are all living in the wrong state.

[Justtristo]

I do believe we need a honest debate on whether it will cost less to deal with the consquences of climate change or try reduce C02 emissions to a level which will prevent such climate change from occuring. I believe we have reached a point that any measures which have been proposed and implemented to reduce greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are not going to do very little in preventing the predicted climate change from occurring.

Without the rapid development and implementation of technologies such as nuclear fusion and either hydrogen fuel cell or cheap electric vehicles. I cannot see how we can prevent the sort of climate change being predicted without drastically reducing the living standards of the world's population. Because global civilization is still extremely dependant on fossil fuels (Oil, Natural Gas and Coal) which is major contributer to rising greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere.

Although I do find it disappointing that for protecting their own interest that the fossil fuels industry in general want to deny that anthropogenic climate change is real. The fossil fuel industry have been instrumental to bankrolling the promotion of denial of anthropogenic climate change. I believe they would be a lot more better off if they promoted the sort of debate I believe is necessary, than resort to what they have done so far.

[The Grand Nudger]

I think it's far more likely that we would find a way to slow ACG than to stop it. If we're looking for honest debate and practical solutions we have to set reasonable goals. We are not going to be able to exist in "equilibrium with nature" -as it were, I can't see that as anything more than a pipe-dream. I don't even know why we would want to -consider that once upon a time we did just that, and our situation has since greatly improved-. This is obviously a personal opinion, but there will always be some issue where we will need to prioritize ourselves or our environment, and in those areas I will always side with us. So, seems to me, that the best course of action would be to mitigate damage in those areas where the compromise is bearable so as to shift the weight of damage across the aggregate of all of our activities.

Slow food, tighter city planning, more expansive public trans, stricter regulations, sustainable building codes (passive solar and appropriate materials), better comms networks (telecommuting). I mean, this obviously only applies to the US (but I assume that there are analogs wherever anyone is from) but as far as our energy grid is concerned.......We can, and have in the past, spent massive amounts of resources and manpower to create a system of energy production and dispersal with no immediate prospects of profitability..and it worked out fantastically for us. Rural Electrification and The Tennessee River Valley Authority anyone? Granted, we had less than stellar motives for part of that, but we did do it once. Sustainable alternatives don't have to remove the necessity of fossil fuels to be a viable alternative, they only have to mitigate it. I see alot of "all or nothing" from both sides on this issue (and I deal with this particular issue day in and day out as part and parcel of the folks I find myself surrounded by). My grandmother likes to relate the story of how we were first introduced to electricity. One line, one lightbulb, one lightswitch. Amusingly no one told my Grt Grandfather that he would have to pay for the electricity so he had some sticker shock and immediately banned its use for a long time. My Grt Grandmother used to store her perishables in a crockpot buried in the ground by the river...lol. They burnt wood to stay warm, they had kerosene lamps for light, and a water based radio (no shit). The moral of this story being that such a project need not be immediately useful, it need not be immediately practical. If we're in it for the long term here (and I hope we are) we have to start thinking and planning long term. No magic bullets, no room for idealogues on either side (they just stall the process with incessant bickering).

[ib.me.ub]

Interesting. You mention the weight of damage? Wonder if it will be heavy?