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Why do you not believe in God?
RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 9, 2012 at 2:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(July 9, 2012 at 8:23 am)Ace Otana Wrote: What would you expect?! I've been through Summer's naughty pics again this morning. Got an erection that fast I got a whiplash.

How are ya Frodo? Big Grin

Lol Big Grin

TOO much information buddy! Smile

I know! I never figured Ace for the kind of guy that looks at a girls naughty pictures and then tells. (How were they?)
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
Quote:Reason 1. God is an unverifiable idea:

It is not just that. When you combine that rightful statement to the entirety of data of claims in human history about gods and the super natural, the evidence is that we make them up, not because they are real, but because they are a placebo crutch in the form of our own personal desires of want of protection and continuance. It is our anthropomorphic refusal to face our finite existence.

But beyond that when one talks about the omni claims of the god claim, it is without the scientific objections, which are valid, it becomes even a moral bankrupt idea by itself. I have yet to see one good refutation to the objection to a god claim brought up in antiquity by Epicurus.

The blunt fact is that "all this" is not the cause of a thinking being. It is merely no different than the seasons changing and the gravity that keeps the earth falling around the sun. It is a foreign concept to the believer that life is emergent property, not of cognition with magical powers, but one of random and changing conditions in a non cognitive universe.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 9, 2012 at 4:55 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(July 9, 2012 at 2:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Lol Big Grin

TOO much information buddy! Smile

I know! I never figured Ace for the kind of guy that looks at a girls naughty pictures and then tells. (How were they?)

They're fucking amazing! Big Grin
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 9, 2012 at 2:24 pm)Opsnyder Wrote: Give me a good reason to believe in God and I might think about it. Haven't HEARD ANY SINGLE ONE YET!

The opening arguments of William Lane Craig here give some good arguments for God. (starts at 4:30)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssq-S5M8wsY

I likewise have asked atheists for reasons to disbelieve in God, because I haven't heard one yet, even though I made a thread asking for one that has reached a lot of pages.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
His cosmological argument from ignorance? You have GOT to be kidding.

Quote:I likewise have asked atheists for reasons to disbelieve in God, because I haven't heard one yet, even though I made a thread asking for one that has reached a lot of pages.

THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL. You were given MANY reasons to disbelieve in your myth, primarily your utter lack of evidence to support your claim of the existence of your sky fairy. Your sad attempts to quibble them away with bullshit do nothing to negate that they are GOOD REASONS NOT TO BELIEVE.

You sir are a fucking LIAR. I believe your fairy tale monster takes a rather dim view of lying, as well.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 10, 2012 at 11:35 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: The opening arguments of William Lane Craig here give some good arguments for God. (starts at 4:30)

I likewise have asked atheists for reasons to disbelieve in God, because I haven't heard one yet, even though I made a thread asking for one that has reached a lot of pages.

WLC? Oh, for fuck's sake!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE80p6i8Sug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jXu8vIlA...ure=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OGEC4UK7...ure=relmfu
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 10, 2012 at 11:35 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: The opening arguments of William Lane Craig here give some good arguments for God. (starts at 4:30)

Do you really expect us to slog through a nearly two hour video? How about putting your evidence for this imaginary friend in your own words?

Quote:I likewise have asked atheists for reasons to disbelieve in God, because I haven't heard one yet,

Really? Because I'm sure you've been told numerous times here that there is zero evidence that your deity is real. That's pretty much it. I don't know of a better reason to dismiss your claim.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
Right off the bat, Craig says "Typically, atheists have said that the universe is just eternal and uncaused. But there are good reasons, both philosophical and scientific, which call into question that assumption."

This statement attempts to shift the burden of proof by citing "that assumption", and it also is a Straw Man. No one has to claim that "the universe is just eternal and uncaused" in order to be an atheist. We are atheists because we don't believe in theist fairy tales, FOR WHATEVER REASON.


Craig's arguments are densely packed full of this sort of disingenuous, dishonest bullshit. He uses lies and deceit, the tools of the trade of his own devil. He is a liar straight from the pit of hell.

"You who are full of every kind of craftiness and unscrupulous cunning--you son of the Devil and foe to all that is right...
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
Quote:Do you really expect us to slog through a nearly two hour video? How about putting your evidence for this imaginary friend in your own words?

I just said to watch Craig's opening statement. You can even just stick around for one of his arguments, I'd guess its like 5 minutes for one.

(July 10, 2012 at 12:10 pm)Thor Wrote:
Quote:I likewise have asked atheists for reasons to disbelieve in God, because I haven't heard one yet,

Really? Because I'm sure you've been told numerous times here that there is zero evidence that your deity is real. That's pretty much it. I don't know of a better reason to dismiss your claim.

What I have been told is that there is no evidence for God. However even if I grant for the sake of argument that this is true, it does not show that there is no God.
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RE: Why do you not believe in God?
(July 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote:
(July 10, 2012 at 12:10 pm)Thor Wrote: Really? Because I'm sure you've been told numerous times here that there is zero evidence that your deity is real. That's pretty much it. I don't know of a better reason to dismiss your claim.

What I have been told is that there is no evidence for God. However even if I grant for the sake of argument that this is true, it does not show that there is no God.

Based on this reasoning you must then accept all god claims.
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