Thirteen and a half times, front to back, to ensure I had gotten the context properly done as best I could. I only read it once entirely as a christian. The second time I read it, I stopped being a christian.
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Do you read the bible?
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Do I fuck read the bible.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
 (July 23, 2012 at 12:40 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Do I fuck read the bible. You should, nothing opens your eyes to the true extent of the barbarity and stupidity of the christian and jewish religion as much as the the new and old testaments (respectively, but the latter applies to both, of course). I found that reading it is simply fore-arming oneself against idiotic christians, very little is as effective in an argument as 'have you actually read the bible, [christian idiot]?', besides, it simply compounds atheism. On topic, I believe that it's actually a decent work of fiction, nothing more. I prefer the OT for reading value (but less for truth value), and the NT for actual messages, JC was a cool guy but he got too literal with the god thing, overall 6/10. Followers: 2/10.
Religion is an attempt to answer the philosophical questions of the unphilosophical man.
 (July 23, 2012 at 1:57 pm)liam Wrote:(July 23, 2012 at 12:40 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Do I fuck read the bible. The fans of a book are always far worse than the book itself. Stephen King can tell you that.  (July 23, 2012 at 1:57 pm)liam Wrote: You should, nothing opens your eyes to the true extent of the barbarity and stupidity of the christian and jewish religion as much as the the new and old testaments Why do you have to read it to know that? I haven't read the quran but I know that's fucked up as well. Like fuck should anyone have to waste their time on reading that crap, just to affirm what they already know. 
Yeah, I wasted a lot of time reading that shit. I wish I hadn't.
Cunt
(July 23, 2012 at 1:59 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Why do you have to read it to know that? Can't hate the game, gotta hate the player. It seems to smack of ignorance to say that everything in the bible is horrid and evil and not have read it, so I read it and now I am justified in saying that everything the bible has ever produced is horrid and evil. I think it's just something one ought to do as a rational and respectable atheist. I'm not supporting christianity but there is nothing objective or informed about an ignorant worldview, I think if your main belief is reason or truth you simply have to read it before criticising it.
Religion is an attempt to answer the philosophical questions of the unphilosophical man.
Only when I'm in need of an emetic.
(July 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm)liam Wrote: It seems to smack of ignorance to say that everything in the bible is horrid and evil and not have read it Not really. There's plenty of respectable sources, people, and places that can give me that information without me reading it. It's like saying you have to read 50 shades of grey to know it's shit. Newsflash, you don't. Let's say I've 'read the book reviews'. Quote: so I read it and now I am justified in saying that everything the bible has ever produced is horrid and evil. Good for you. Quote:I think it's just something one ought to do as a rational and respectable atheist. I disagree completely. I bet you haven't delved into the quran, or the torah have you? Does that make you any less a rational and respectable atheist? I think not. Quote: I'm not supporting christianity but there is nothing objective or informed about an ignorant worldview Saying that because you haven't read the bible your worldview is ignorant, is incredibly ignorant. Quote:I think if your main belief is reason or truth you simply have to read it before criticising it. See response 1. (July 23, 2012 at 3:16 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Not really. There's plenty of respectable sources, people, and places that can give me that information without me reading it.Haha, I like your take but I'm not agreeing with reviews, I'm writing one (to continue your rather unfitting analogy), thus I can't rely entirely on what others say. Quote:I bet you haven't delved into the quran, or the torah have you? Does that make you any less a rational and respectable atheist? Not as much as I'd have liked to but I'm going through lots of other books; they're on my book pile near the top, I would feel a better atheist if I'd considered the actual religious views and found nothing believable in them than simply the ones I am culturally or socially acquainted with. Quote: Saying that because you haven't read the bible your worldview is ignorant, is incredibly ignorant.That's not what I'm saying at all, rather that if you hold the antithetic view to religion, as we do, it is best to know what you disagree with. Furthermore, its functionally important for arguing with christians, as the tor'ah and qur'an is with jews and muslims respectively, and all others beyond that. Quote:See response 1. see counter-point 1
Religion is an attempt to answer the philosophical questions of the unphilosophical man.
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