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Obligatory introduction post!
#1
Obligatory introduction post!
I've wanted to join an atheist forum for a while, and I think this may be the right one for me. Seems somehow more easy going than the others I looked at! Cool

Anyway, about me:
I'm 25, I live in Australia and I was born in Germany.
I'm a little bit ashamed of it now, but I wasn't always an atheist. I used to be a christian up until a few years ago, but never really hardcore.
I couldn't tell you now how or when I made the shift. It was fairly gradual, passing through a kind of bizarre agnosticism of my own design before finally landing on complete atheism. This shift went for probably about a year starting about 5 or 6 years ago.
The seeds for my atheism, however, were laid far back in my childhood. Our church had a very fundementalist pastor (it's a Lutheran church, by the way) and I was expected to take the bible as the literal truth. When I actually sat down and tried to read it cover to cover one time I couldn't get past Genesis. I was probably only 13 or 14 at the time, but even at such a young age it just sounded too ridiculous to believe. So I just shut the bible and ignored the unpleasant feeling.
Eventually when I finished high school I think I realised it was time to invent myself as my own person - an adult capable of making my own choices. I returned to the idea of God and began dissecting it and what I believed about my religion. Things I had thought of on and off throughout my life returned to me, particularly why, out of all the thousands and thousands or religions out there, I could be sure that the one I was brought up with was the right one. The only answer I had was that I couldn't be sure. And as such I stopped dogmatically believing what I had been told to believe and instead try to work out for myself what I thought to be true.
The more I thought about it the more abstract my concept of God became. He became for me no longer good or evil, loving, hating, jealous, or any of the other anthropomorphic things we tend to thrust onto him. The idea of omniscience was troublesome for me too. If God knows absolutely everything, then effectively an exact replica of the universe exists in his mind. So with two exact copies of the universe, why would we need this one? Or maybe this universe is the one in God's mind and there is no "real" universe. And so on and ao on.
And as I stripped away the layers of God I eventually realised there was nothing left - nothing necessary anyway. I came to the conclusion that I no longer needed to believe in a God to explain the universe - he was a useless appendage that doesn't give an answer, he just raises more questions.
That's when I became an atheist.
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#2
RE: Obligatory introduction post!
Hi LonePiper,

Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy your stay.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#3
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gday LonePiper, welcome to the forum, I used to be Lutheran too, raised with the same fundamentalist crap. I hope you enjoy the forums. Peace
---legalize it---

All thinking men are atheists. — Ernest Hemingway
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#4
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Welcome LP. Great intro, very enlightening Angel

Tim Keller's a Lutherian isn't he? He seems far from fundamentalist/ literalist to me? Would you say that Lutherianism is predominantly literalist or mixed as are most denominations?
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#5
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Welcome to our little corner of cyberspace LP.

Kyu
Angry Atheism
Where those who are hacked off with the stupidity of irrational belief can vent their feelings!
Come over to the dark side, we have cookies!

Kyuuketsuki, AngryAtheism Owner & Administrator
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#6
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No need to be ashamed of your religious past, I was a Christian Orthodox and a lot of members from here used to be theists, welcome to the forums LonePiperSmile
Personally, it's not God I dislike, it's his fan club I can't stand.
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#7
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Greetings LP. Welcome to the forums.

EvF
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#8
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Thanks everyone! Smile

(June 30, 2009 at 7:49 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Welcome LP. Great intro, very enlightening Angel

Tim Keller's a Lutherian isn't he? He seems far from fundamentalist/ literalist to me? Would you say that Lutherianism is predominantly literalist or mixed as are most denominations?

I'm not sure about Lutheran in General - it was mainly the pastor we had that was a bit of a nutcase. I think that overall Lutheran isn't too bad, but it is the oldest protestant sect and so you can imagine its still fairly fundementalist.

And thanks, Overmars!
I just find it hard to believe now that I was Christian for so long. The whole idea just seems proposterous to me now
Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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