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Hell is not real...
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 (July 30, 2012 at 7:08 am)catfish Wrote: Anyone who believes that "hell" is in the Bible has fallen for one of the greatest lies of all times. Geez, you Christians share this elaborate confabulated hallucination and then you come to an atheist forums to argue about how the furniture is arranged in your fantasy. Hell, no hell, how the hell should I know and why should I care? Is it in the bible? Wouldn't the answer to that involve reading the bible? I'll leave that chore to you bible worshipers.  (August 3, 2012 at 1:09 pm)whateverist Wrote:(July 30, 2012 at 7:08 am)catfish Wrote: Anyone who believes that "hell" is in the Bible has fallen for one of the greatest lies of all times. It is not just the bible, it is all the holy texts in human history. Leave it up to them? What the fuck? Why do you think humanity still has all these fucking problems. Because when you believe in Santa, you are going to argue over who is naughty and nice and you are going to argue over who gets the toys. There is no hell just like there is no Santa. Writing books about super heros and blindly believing them as fact is exactly why this planet has so many fucking problems.
Whether or not hell belongs in their fantasy is up to them. It just isn't any concern of mine.
Indeed, truth be told, the only thing that bugs me about the whole hell business is the suspicion that any given person's inner sadist is blowing their load all over my effigy each time they tell me I'm going to hell.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 3, 2012 at 5:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Indeed, truth be told, the only thing that bugs me about the whole hell business is the suspicion that any given person's inner sadist is blowing their load all over my effigy each time they tell me I'm going to hell. That's an image bound to make me crack up the next time one of my well meaning relatives tries to save my immortal soul.  (August 3, 2012 at 1:09 pm)whateverist Wrote:(July 30, 2012 at 7:08 am)catfish Wrote: Anyone who believes that "hell" is in the Bible has fallen for one of the greatest lies of all times. Are you going to say that scientist do not argue over specifics, doesn't it make sense that they could get the answer out of a book, I would think they could, they have opinions just like everyone else does. As for Catfish he grubs around feeding on the bottom, so we should not expect much from him, he may someday rise up from the bottom and find the truth.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (August 4, 2012 at 2:06 am)Godschild Wrote: As for Catfish he grubs around feeding on the bottom, so we should not expect much from him, he may someday rise up from the bottom and find the truth. What "truth" would that be? The truth of Hades being a myth? The truth that Jesus was NOT God? The truth that man lied in the Bible? (August 4, 2012 at 2:09 am)catfish Wrote:(August 4, 2012 at 2:06 am)Godschild Wrote: As for Catfish he grubs around feeding on the bottom, so we should not expect much from him, he may someday rise up from the bottom and find the truth. You have not proven your crazy thoughts, until you do they remain as false as you are.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
The truth of Hades being a myth? Umm, Greek legends, unless you can prove it's real, it a myth that's pretty much accepted as a myth...
The truth that Jesus was NOT God? Luke 22:42 King James Version (KJV) 42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. Two separate wills there, two separate beings... The truth that man lied in the Bible? Jeremiah 8:8 New International Version (NIV) 8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?  (August 4, 2012 at 3:21 am)Godschild Wrote: You have not proven your crazy thoughts, until you do they remain as false as you are.  It never stops being funny when godschild tells people they are crazy/deluded/whatever.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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