To the Moderators, please!

[Tnmusicman]

I repeat, I am not a slave to your book of superstitions as others may be. As a writer, I am always conscious of the need for clarity, out of basic respect for the reader. So I think we've reached the point where it's cards on the table time. If you have something to say, please say it. If not, go away.

It has nothing to do with you being a slave. You said "what makes you think I haven't read the bible?" So most people would assume that by your own statement you've read it. Is that a logical conclusion? Why do you equate reading a book with being a slave to it? Its funny how you say that you've read the bible then gripe that I wasent being clear about something that's in the book you say you've read but then when something goes by you then it's "I'm not a slave to your book of superstitions" which seems a creative way to say "I was talking out of my butt when I said I read your book of superstition". Ahhh,good so we've established you arent very knowledgable about the bible after all.

[pocaracas]

This is gonna be good!

[Darkstar]

It has nothing to do with you being a slave. You said "what makes you think I haven't read the bible?" So most people would assume that by your own statement you've read it. Is that a logical conclusion? Why do you equate reading a book with being a slave to it? Its funny how you say that you've read the bible then gripe that I wasent being clear about something that's in the book you say you've read but then when something goes by you then it's "I'm not a slave to your book of superstitions" which seems a creative way to say "I was talking out of my butt when I said I read your book of superstition". Ahhh,good so we've established you arent very knowledgable about the bible after all.

I think it's pretty clear that
1. he read it, and
2. he doesn't take everything/anything in it at face value on faith

I'd like to see someone defend the validity of the Noah's Ark story, as no one has succeeded in doing so. Either that or admit it's a metaphor.
Likewise, about the 'clarity'. There have been many different interpretations of the bible, and none have yet been proven to be the 'correct' one.

[Cyberman]

Exactly. To me the 'holy' bible is essentially a reference book for verifying or demolishing (as appropriate) xtian assertions about the book. Have I read it? Yes, I have; several times right through, though not in single sittings and with regular vomit-breaks etc. More often on an ad hoc basis, with reference to my first point. Do I understand it? I would say, with all modesty, probably about as well as any casual reader with no vested interest or career-based obsession. If any of this says that I am talking out of my barrel to you, that says a lot more about you than it does me.

[Godscreated]

Indeed. I do wish those of our theist number who do this would simply get to whatever point they're going for, rather than trying to appear all mystic and deep and failing hard.

It would not make any difference how well we stated our position, you would pull out the mystic card. This is why, you do not care what truths are put before you from scripture, why because you can not understand that which you can not see. The more I am here the more I understand what Christ meant by the blind.

[Godscreated]

Indeed. I do wish those of our theist number who do this would simply get to whatever point they're going for, rather than trying to appear all mystic and deep and failing hard.

You would not care how much truth we would give, you would still clam mystic. You do not care to learn from anyone who's view differs from your's. You also could not understand what comes from scripture, why, because you are blind, the more time I spend here the more truth I see in what Christ said about those who are blind.

[Darkstar]

You would not care how much truth we would give, you would still clam mystic. You do not care to learn from anyone who's view differs from your's. You also could not understand what comes from scripture, why, because you are blind, the more time I spend here the more truth I see in what Christ said about those who are blind.

Says the guy quoting a book he has yet to establish the credibility of...

[pocaracas]

[Darkstar]

well.... even the NT seems to be mostly "divine inspiration"...

Well, now that's funny, no wonder no one who actually saw the events or knew anyone who did were the ones to write about it! They God filled in all of the mystical lies missing details for themselves!

[Cyberman]