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Another ID argument eats shit and dies
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Another ID argument eats shit and dies
Here is a link to a great blog post that absolutely destroys a specific claim made by the ID crowd. It comes complete with a link to a peer reviewed paper that shows the claim to be false.

In his book Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism ID proponent Michael Behe makes the claim that it is impossible for four mutations in a gene to result in an improved protein. He even gives examples to lend evidence to his claim. Unfortunately for Behe the results of a study released in the paper Darwinian Evolution on a Chip show Behe’s claims to be false. Not only does this paper gives an example of 4 mutations that together lead to an improvement, but one of the mutations by itself would be detrimental to the resulting proteins. The later being the essence of Behe's argument to begin with.

Kudos to Summer for linking this blog in her "GMO causes cancer" thread.
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You can't stop these morons with facts, Pap.

They have fucking jesus, you know.
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It's so annoying how enemies of evolution will not simply make untestable claims, or portray information in a biased light, but outright lie. Every time I genuinely think of just how many people are absolutely deluded into believing in creationism (and god in general) I feel ill. I just think 'yeah there are a lot of ignorant people out there who deny evolution' but once I acknowlege just what is meant by 'a lot' and realize that many people consider it a respectable position...Sad
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Thank you for the article.
It is interesting to note that an actual example is given to support the counterargument (i.e. sickle-cell anemia).
Refuting Intelligent Design seems to be a favorite leisure of some people and I cannot blame them.
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Dude, every ID argument has already eaten shit and died. I believe when the saying goes "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
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Step away from the necropost! Bio-hazard zone here! (Well, we're on a forum, so I'm not sure that this would make any difference, but...)

The other post of mine on this page looks weird...did I really type that? My first days on the forum weren't my best...

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(October 12, 2012 at 11:22 am)popeyespappy Wrote: In his book Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism ID proponent Michael Behe makes the claim that it is impossible for four mutations in a gene to result in an improved protein. He even gives examples to lend evidence to his claim. Unfortunately for Behe the results of a study released in the paper

Actually a real evolutionist doing a paper with that title would be excellent. I've come up with a few things in my alien life speculations that are intriguing at least. All endoskeleton species like us have four limbs and cannot evolve more limbs.* There is nothing to modify into extra limbs.

I'd like to see that explored (or debunked) by the pros as well as the more interesting things from their point of view.


* Therefore if the 'first in our line' fish to leave had had six limbs it would have been much easier to evolve two separate limbs for tool usage rather than needing to evolve bipedalism first. Thus intelligence might have evolved earlier. Thus alien species are most like to have 6 or more limbs. It will definitely be a challenge for Hollywood to makes the sets and the makeup.

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