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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 12:24 am
The time has come, the walrus said
To talk of many things
Of shoes, and ships, and sealing wax,
Of cabbages and kings!
And why the sea is boiling hot
And whether pigs have wings...
I <3 Carroll...
Oh, yeah, then the oysters get eaten...
Every last one.
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 12:30 am
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(November 4, 2012 at 10:14 pm)Brunitski Wrote: (November 4, 2012 at 10:03 pm)ezak420 Wrote: The middle way exists as the thread of consciousness, that is occupied by with the vibration of physical existence and while the universe rotates in an everlasting eternal cycle, encompassing the whole of existence while expanding in time and space. We live in a constant present of vibration, yin and yang, up and down, left and right, pushing and pulling, trying to even out, become sane, become one, become conscious, become eternal. Become God.
tsk. Drugs. Just say no.
Sounds to me like another cosmic jerkoff trying to sound deep and profound without all that bother of actually doing the work necessary to be deep and profound.
Doesn't sound like the Taoism I know, but then, I'm outside the traditions, and not very knowledgeable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NyTN3FG9s
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 12:41 am
(November 5, 2012 at 12:30 am)apophenia Wrote: Doesn't sound like the Taoism I know, but then, I'm outside the traditions, and not very knowledgeable.
Didn't Lao Tzu say that the Way is indescribable? There is only the Way, and once one has seen the path, they will always be outsiders to those that haven't, they can't lead to the path, they can't describe the path... the Way lies within the individual, not within the collective... I'm just musing, and having a night filled with Tao...
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 9:19 am
Yeah, the Walrus and the Carpenter poem is the one I know - the Jabborwocky, not so much.
However, the sad thing is that while I was reading the OP, I got the vision of the Cheshire Cat from the Care Bears version of Alice. The kind with the bouncing head and the 80's-cool voice.
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 9:59 am
(November 4, 2012 at 11:11 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Twas' brillig and the slithy toves,
Did gyre and gimbel in the wabe,
All mimsy were the boregoaves,
And the momerathes out grabe! Quote:Beware the Jabberwock, my son,
The jaws that bite, the claws that snatch!
Beware the Jub-jub bird,
And shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
He took his Vorpal sword in hand...
...then my memory lets me down
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 10:03 am
Did anyone else get that thing of drifting into unconsciousness while reading the OP?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 12:13 pm
(November 5, 2012 at 12:41 am)festive1 Wrote: (November 5, 2012 at 12:30 am)apophenia Wrote: Doesn't sound like the Taoism I know, but then, I'm outside the traditions, and not very knowledgeable.
Didn't Lao Tzu say that the Way is indescribable? There is only the Way, and once one has seen the path, they will always be outsiders to those that haven't, they can't lead to the path, they can't describe the path... the Way lies within the individual, not within the collective... I'm just musing, and having a night filled with Tao...
There's a lot more to it than that. But the ineffable is a mainstay of many traditions, from Taoism, to Mahayana Buddhism, to Christian mysticism.
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 12:18 pm
There are bits and pieces of a lot of religions/philosophies that are good and helpful... I'm of the mind to take what you can use and leave the rest.
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 1:47 pm
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(November 5, 2012 at 12:41 am)festive1 Wrote: Didn't Lao Tzu say that the Way is indescribable? There is only the Way, and once one has seen the path, they will always be outsiders to those that haven't, they can't lead to the path, they can't describe the path... the Way lies within the individual, not within the collective... I'm just musing, and having a night filled with Tao...
Ermagerd! Not aimed at you festive, but that kind of noodly bullshit just chaps my ass like sliding naked down a slide covered in sandpaper! If it is so indescribable how can you tell if you are right? When someone "get's it" they grin and nod and hold their posture just so. That is similar to acid heads trying to out-harcore-trip each other. "No dude, I was like, in a tunnel of vexing square boxes. Then the glowing man opened the akashic dimension to me and the whole of reality was made clear unto me!" Ok, so what can you tell me about reality that will help me in any way whatsoever? "Well, you just gotta love everyone man." Hmm, how quaint, let me guess, when I see the resplendent vistas of Everest in a dream so deep that the abyss seems to swallow the universe like a child popping a Starburst, then and only then will I view the great electron! Pay no attention to the man eating a microwave buritto after huffing bong hit after bong hit on the sofa!
My goal is to immanentize the eschaton through science.
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RE: Consciousness Cycles
November 5, 2012 at 4:22 pm
(November 4, 2012 at 10:03 pm)ezak420 Wrote: The middle way exists as the thread of consciousness, that is occupied by with the vibration of physical existence and while the universe rotates in an everlasting eternal cycle, encompassing the whole of existence while expanding in time and space. We live in a constant present of vibration, yin and yang, up and down, left and right, pushing and pulling, trying to even out, become sane, become one, become conscious, become eternal. Become God. Okay...
So... if you already got reality and life, your sense of purpose, or higher meaning all figured out, then why are you helping us?
Why do you feel the urge to share this "insight" with anyone else?
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