Pro-porn, anti-porn or in between?

[Darth]

LastPoet, you are, officially....the biggest idiot I have encountered on an internet forum. I tip my hat. I didn't think such a high concentration of stupidity was metaphysically feasible. The weakness of your intellect is so profound, it makes reality feel like a dream. There is no way the resounding stupidity you embody could have snuck into our gene pool and survive so long without it being a miracle. The fact that something so deeply dumb exists frightens me. The fact that you can form words astounds me. The fact that you have managed to figure out how to use a computer- it blows my mind. You are not the bottom of the barrel as far as intelligence is concerned. The underside of the barrel is too high for you. Decomposing cabbages have shown more intelligence than you. A sack of rocks will think clearer than you. A floating turd carrying an umbrella and speaking in a Liverpudlian accent while moonwalking sideways up a living room wall makes as much sense as you. If your head could be any emptier, it would be used as a vacuum in the Large Hadron Collider. If your stupidity appeared on my TV, the screen would explode. If I heard your stupidity on a radio, the feedback would level my entire state. If I even looked at you, my eyes would be burned by the power of a stupidity so intense, it would be like a thousand suns. Behind a thousand sunglasses. The revelation of your complete stupidity has become a landmark event in mathematics. For the first time we have discovered a quantity larger than infinity. My friend, I am awestruck to be in the presence of the epic glory that you represent. I am literally quaking in my seat as I consider the magnificence of your presence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bImBBTaPDY

such a response, too harsh maybe?

[Tiberius]

Even if porn is damaging, we have no right to tell two (or more) consenting adults what they can do with each other, record, and then sell.

[Darth]

or one =P

[thesummerqueen]

I've got some severe ADD this early in the morning, so I'm not going to read the rest of the thread beyond page one.

My two pennies:

Serial killers are not the only people with porn stashes. Serial killers are merely a subset of people who lose their privacy and therefore their stash gets publicized. It isn't the fantasy world that makes them do the awful things they do - there are real problems within their past (abuse, etc) and also problems in their brain (lacking the pathways or blockages in the pathways that concern empathy or consequence judgment). From what I've read and seen, the problem is that some cannot become aroused without violence.

Porn deals with fantasy, which people may or may not turn into real life. The mind, however, is incredible complex, as is the sex drive, and porn can be really beneficial to spicing things up or providing an outlet for things you would never ever try. Or it provides visual stimulation when you want to wank.

Now as far as the "real life" thing: let's make a comparison. There are some people who read Harry Potter and think "Ah, that's a great book" and move on. There are some people who read it and really nerd out about it. There are some people who who become absolutely enamored with it and dress up like the characters, all the way up to the fucktards who absolutely wish they lived at Hogwarts to the point of becoming social shut ins.

It's the same with porn: here is a scenario with characters. Some people watch it, and move on. Some people watch it and get ideas and really test out whether or not those scenarios work (to great or stupid benefit). There are some people who get porn obsessed. And there are some people who get fucked over by it.

What matters is your ability to tell fantasy from reality. I can't do magic. I also can't bend in some of the ways they portray in porn. But I realize that such things are their JOB, as well. My job is not to snowboard, so I probably will fail if I see a video and go attempt it without the proper training and instruction, yeah?

What porn does do is provide a springboard for discussion with my (now) boyfriend and (back then) lovers as to things that might be interesting to do or act out.

There are plenty of people out there who want to take away porn because they feel threatened by it. In some cases, this might be true because their partners are concentrating more on the porn than them. In a lot of fat conservative housewife cases, I suspect it has more to do with jealousy that their husband is watching someone younger and skinnier than them. In typical stupid fashion, porn must end, not their fatness or unwillingness to do certain things sexually. They cloak it in "girls being taken advantage of" when a lot of women CHOOSE to do porn because it's a way to make money, and some girls really just like to fuck. Do some people get mistreated? Absolutely - but so do people in just about every commercial enterprise. It's just not as fun to hear about sweatshops as it is to hear about some girl with a hot body who was made to have sex with five guys - that's titillating news.

I have never felt shafted or threatened by a man watching porn, and I'm pretty average. You know what's funny? For a few of those lovers, we lived far enough away that sometimes instead we'd masturbate on web cam for each other, and they absolutely loved it more than porn because it's a real person interacting with them on a mental and physical level. I don't think I have to explain that this is increased 10 thousand-fold when you're actually with that person. I have insecurities, sure, but (and maybe I just pick good guys) they've always taken care to make sure I feel awesome about myself due to their treatment as much as my own psyching up. You see, they want me to feel good so that they can have a completely enjoyable sexual experience that may or may not include what they've seen on porn. The only thing that seems to be constant, porn or no, is that these men want someone who is in touch with their sexuality and enjoys what's going on. I can't tell you the number of guys who have told me (as a friend or as a lover) that many women just lay there and don't participate. The lure of porn is that women DO enjoy what's going on and what's being done to them. Once you have that in real life, it's only psychological problems that would lead you to turn to porn instead.

I don't know why people concentrate on porn though. Erotica is just as 'dangerous' but I guess because it can be hidden between book covers no one thinks about it.

[Something completely different]

'The_Germans_are_coming'
'Vincenzo "Vinny" G.'
My two favorite people to see conversing, I bet Germans will give in first.

By the way Germany has a long way to go in my book. It's not like they go around the world defending people from racial prejudice or genocide, not taking a stance is also taking a stance.

It was clear that only someone as stupid as you - the conspiracy theorist and godwins prophet - would give a eugenesist some rep.

Go and get a education before making a eaven greater fool out of yourself by reposting your nonsence!

All of Europe is on board with the quality of the medical and scientific work in Italy. Their study is made public and presented at conferences and published in peer-review journals, even outside of Italy.

What do you mean! "bound"?????

What a fuckload of nonsence! Scientific institution do their work independent from each other!
No scientific institution is "bound" to any other! Let alone the certain institutions of one country!

But your racism means you can't accept their work as equal in quality.

Wow.

Where is my racism! Where am I being racist!?

Dont forget! You propose eugenics! Your post read like if they were fom a fashist party book! You posted things like "atheism has no say in morals"!

And to be frankly: I still dought that you are a atheist! With every post you make I become more certain that you are a christian fuckhead troll!

Since you dont manage to deliver counterarguments to the arguments I provide with sources!

Which is typical for most cowardly christian trolls here!

[Aractus]

You need to get laid bigtime 'bro' get all that frustration out of your system.

And a man needs to keep the pluming running ... y'know 'bro ' ..

What's the matter, can't you beat off a hard one without porn?

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LastPoet, you are, officially....the biggest idiot I have encountered on an internet forum. I tip my hat. I didn't think such a high concentration of stupidity was metaphysically feasible. The weakness of your intellect is so profound, it makes reality feel like a dream. There is no way the resounding stupidity you embody could have snuck into our gene pool and survive so long without it being a miracle. The fact that something so deeply dumb exists frightens me. The fact that you can form words astounds me. The fact that you have managed to figure out how to use a computer- it blows my mind. You are not the bottom of the barrel as far as intelligence is concerned. The underside of the barrel is too high for you. Decomposing cabbages have shown more intelligence than you. A sack of rocks will think clearer than you. A floating turd carrying an umbrella and speaking in a Liverpudlian accent while moonwalking sideways up a living room wall makes as much sense as you. If your head could be any emptier, it would be used as a vacuum in the Large Hadron Collider. If your stupidity appeared on my TV, the screen would explode. If I heard your stupidity on a radio, the feedback would level my entire state. If I even looked at you, my eyes would be burned by the power of a stupidity so intense, it would be like a thousand suns. Behind a thousand sunglasses. The revelation of your complete stupidity has become a landmark event in mathematics. For the first time we have discovered a quantity larger than infinity. My friend, I am awestruck to be in the presence of the epic glory that you represent. I am literally quaking in my seat as I consider the magnificence of your presence.

You. Win.

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[Kousbroek]

What's the matter, can't you beat off a hard one without porn?

Why so interested in my erection Daniel ?
Or are you looking for a piece of ass ?

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Violence is not abnormal. It pervades every aspect of our lives.

I see no problem with constructive, functional violence in our lives.

And you have the balls to call someone an idiot ?
Does your shrink know that you behave like this on internet fora?
I know 'your kind' ...
Smartasses like you always have the most skeletons in their closet.
You're a creep ...

[Creed of Heresy]

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'The_Germans_are_coming'
'Vincenzo "Vinny" G.'
My two favorite people to see conversing, I bet Germans will give in first.

By the way Germany has a long way to go in my book. It's not like they go around the world defending people from racial prejudice or genocide, not taking a stance is also taking a stance.

It was clear that only someone as stupid as you - the conspiracy theorist and godwins prophet - would give a eugenesist some rep.

Go and get a education before making a eaven greater fool out of yourself by reposting your nonsence!

All of Europe is on board with the quality of the medical and scientific work in Italy. Their study is made public and presented at conferences and published in peer-review journals, even outside of Italy.

What do you mean! "bound"?????

What a fuckload of nonsence! Scientific institution do their work independent from each other!
No scientific institution is "bound" to any other! Let alone the certain institutions of one country!

But your racism means you can't accept their work as equal in quality.

Wow.

Where is my racism! Where am I being racist!?

Dont forget! You propose eugenics! Your post read like if they were fom a fashist party book! You posted things like "atheism has no say in morals"!

And to be frankly: I still dought that you are a atheist! With every post you make I become more certain that you are a christian fuckhead troll!

Since you dont manage to deliver counterarguments to the arguments I provide with sources!

Which is typical for most cowardly christian trolls here!

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Vinny has a long(ish) history of claiming to be an atheist but virtually everyone has come to the conclusion he is, in fact, a Christian poser. Another member engaged him in the "blasphemy test," which Vinny never passed, which while not a surefire way to prove it is still rather damning.

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Also. I watch porn fairly often. Generally twice a day. It's fun. It's an escape. I am pretty much shit out of luck right now as far as getting laid goes since while I enjoy indulging the fantasies porn brings me, in truth actually having sex is not really a priority for me anymore. I have too much other shit on my mind.

So yes. I watch porn and not only do I not rape women, I also haven't gotten laid since April. No, that was not her name, that was the month. Her name was actually Maya. If it was May, then there'd be cause for hilarity.

[Shell B]

Vinnie, firstly, you can't infer that someone is a porn addict because they dismissed your shitty fucking sources. Secondly, not like Catholics is not racist. It is antitheist. Fucking knucklehead.

[Whateverist]

Look for the citations in the following links:

http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/...60579.html

http://yourbrainonporn.com/middleburry-c...lames-porn

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497122

WTF, Vinnie. These aren't porn sites.