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April 25, 2015 at 10:24 pm (This post was last modified: April 25, 2015 at 10:26 pm by SteelCurtain.)
Ha! That might be the first post from the Hall of Wit and Epicness to go into the Hall of Shame...
....and now it is.
ETA: It occurs to me that it's just ridiculous enough to me to have been continuing the trope. I'll leave it.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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(April 27, 2015 at 2:47 pm)Exian Wrote: Haha Here's a protip, prof: Sarcasm hits harder when you dabble in reality from time to time.
Glorious.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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Yes! I've made it! And here it shall remain for the ages.
Quote:"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Thanks, Steel.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
I'm nom-nominating this for its own sake, and not at all as some pathetically transparent ploy to get my own stuff recognised:
(June 1, 2015 at 5:22 pm)Alex K Wrote: WLC's strategy : shitting on the plate and then complaining that we don't properly use fork and knife to eat it up.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
I'm nominating this under "Epic". Really interesting and well done. Deserves recognition and and easy linking. Just wish I had the wit to post it normally. (That and the length are the reason for the hide tags.)
Thanks Panda.
(June 3, 2015 at 5:48 am)pocaracas Wrote: So you're a JW... I think I'm going to ask you the same I asked Carson. You think you're up to the challenge?
I'll even allow myself to be lazy and copy the question itself.
(May 18, 2015 at 5:24 am)pocaracas Wrote: Since I'm going to delve into history, how about we consider the very real possibility of fabrication of the concept of Jesus? Perhaps as an amalgamation of other pre-existing deities and some other real people. I'm not even going into other gods (egyptians, greek or romans, or assyrians) who were claimed to be born of virgins, died and resurrected and other tri-parted heads of pantheons.... I'm going into my favorite simple and evidenced Teacher of Righteousness:
The story does sound familiar, does it not? The troubling bit is that it pre-dates Jesus by over 100 years. It could have been revived some time before the Council of Nicaea and found its way into some text that would later be considered a gospel.
I then gave him some more info on where this comes from, because just providing a link in the middle of the text is not enough:
(June 1, 2015 at 5:04 am)pocaracas Wrote: This is a figure described in the Habakkuk Pesher, one of the dead sea scrolls, "written sometime in the later half of the 1st century BC". If this is when the guy get's written about, then the events (if true) happened prior to that.
At the very least, the story is of such a man who gathers a following, confronts the established religious authority, who waste no time getting him crucified... And then he resurrects, 3 days later.
So we have two potential situations here:
- The historical Jesus is a copycat of this teacher... but I see too many extraordinary details for someone to successfully copy. Both resurrect 3 days after being crucified?
- This teacher IS the historical Jesus and year one on the catholic calendar is misplaced by, at least, 50 years. Of course, this would render some of the canonical gospels as wrong on a few key details - namely, the roman leaders of the region where things happen, both the birth (which is already wrong by a few years) and the crucifixion.
And just to make the question a bit more obvious than I did to Carson on my first go:
(June 1, 2015 at 10:07 am)pocaracas Wrote: My question remains the same: How do you fit in your head the information that a writing exists, predating the canonical date of the birth of Jesus, which presents a figure whose life contains details that match very closely to the life attributed, in the canon, to Jesus?
This question is about YOU. What is your personal take on this.
Had you ever come across this detail of 1970's archeology?
Boy for the memory impaired the constantly changing user names are just hell. I'm thinking Pandemonium used to be Castro? But I wouldn't bet much on that.
That is who I thought had written this .. but don't even ask how that happened. I have no idea.
