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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:25 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:12 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: I'll say it again, more clearly. He's arguing that PC games generally have a higher skill ceiling. He then listed PC games with high skill ceilings - much higher than any console game. This would add merit to his argument.
Then he should have bothered to reply to me before he went all obvious troll to clear up the point he was trying to make. At no point did he mention the word generally.
(January 27, 2013 at 4:58 pm)BGChuckLee Wrote: Console games have a lower skill ceiling, where the Koreans are- is where the real difficulty is.
That sounded to me like he was just saying all games on PC have higher skill ceilings.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:27 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:25 pm)Insanity x Wrote: That sounded to me like he was just saying all games on PC have higher skill ceilings. To me, one doesn't have to say "generally" when making a claim like that, for me to just assume that's what they mean. Meh.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:30 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:12 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: He then listed PC games with high skill ceilings - much higher than any console game. This would add merit to his argument.
No, it really wouldn't, because those games can't be compared with console, as they are not on console.
It's impossible for you to know that these games have higher skill ceilings, as until they are ported over to console, you have nothing to compare them against. Unless you like comparing apples with oranges. It doesn't prove anything by simply saying minesweeper is hard to someone who plays crosswords.
Oh, and you can click the green arrow in the quotes. No need to actually give the url link.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:31 pm
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(January 27, 2013 at 6:30 pm)Napoléon Wrote: No, it really wouldn't, because those games can't be compared with console, as they are not on console. Pacman compared to LoL. Which has a higher skill ceiling? You can compare different games, on different consoles, when comparing the capacity for skill they allow.
My point still stands.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:47 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: Pacman compared to LoL. Which has a higher skill ceiling?
You can't compare the 2. You may rock at lol but somebody who bosses PacMan is going to write rude words in your high score list.
(January 27, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: You can compare different games, on different consoles, when comparing the capacity for skill they allow.
In a limited sense. How could you possibly know the top skill level of every game on every platform? I think its a ridiculous thing to try and compare.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:51 pm
So which is harder Pac Man or LoL? Feel free to explain why.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:53 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:51 pm)Napoléon Wrote: So which is harder Pac Man or LoL? Feel free to explain why. Depends on who you're playing against on LoL. I'm not arguing which is harder, though.
LoL undoubtedly allows for more growth as a player (skill.)
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:55 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: Depends on who you're playing against on LoL. I'm not arguing which is harder, though.
LoL undoubtedly allows for more growth as a player (skill.)
And you think you could beat the highscore of the worlds best Pacman player?
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:58 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: Depends on who you're playing against on LoL. I'm not arguing which is harder, though.
Higher skill ceilings, whatever you know what we mean.
Quote:LoL undoubtedly allows for more growth as a player (skill.)
And why is that? How does this mean it allows for a higher skill ceiling? The way I see it someone who can complete pac man has more skill than someone who plays LoL. It's subjective either way. When comparing two players on the same game on different systems, then it's not subjective, because you can actually compare the performances in an equal manner.
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RE: Hall of wit and epicness.
January 27, 2013 at 6:59 pm
(January 27, 2013 at 6:55 pm)Insanity x Wrote: And you think you could beat the highscore of the worlds best Pacman player? Nope.
I could do it before I become better than the word's best LoL players, though. (Actually, that's probably not true, considering beating the best score in pacman is more about how much days you're ready to waste, than how much skill you can employ - and I don't care enough about pacman to play it for days straight.)
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