Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study

[Cyberman]

I'm getting quicker on the button!

[Something completely different]

This thread should be put out of it`s misery.

[Darkstar]

...says the guy who is continuing to expand the thread with this very post.

[Cinjin]

[LastPoet]

Context cinjin, context!

[downbeatplumb]

To save you some research here is one of the little known but horrible teachings from the Koran. The Mulsum Koran encourages the beating of a wife if they are disobedient. Below are recognised translations of this verse, followed by supporting evidence for domestic violence in Islam.

Proverbs 13:24
New International Version (NIV)

Whoever spares the rod hates their children,but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

[Cyberman]

Psalm 137:9
(does it matter which version?)

Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock.

Deut 21:18-21

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

[LastPoet]

Why is it that everytime i see a religionist fighting another religionist, I get the mental image of two bald men fighting over a hair cone?

[Jackalope]

This thread needs more Tinky Winky.

[FutureAndAHope]

Laws in the bible were only preventative, if you see my following study you will see God never had an adulterer put to death, rather he pardoned them. Harsh laws bring fear of breaking them, soft laws do nothing, only offer advice.

And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. 1Jn 4:16

So if God is love, why do certain scriptures in the Old Testament Law appear very harsh, surely a good God would not do anything harsh. Well the reason is preventative, as I will show from scripture. The law is put in place in an attempt to prevent crime. Like we have jail and fines to try to deter crime. Obviously the stricter the punishment then the less likely a person is to offend. We will now move onto a case study from scripture to show the law is in fact preventative. Take the following law:

"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. Lev 20:10

So if you read that verse alone you might think well God is fairly judgmental and bitter, he just wants to kill people for weakness, and sin. But what we find in he rest of scripture is that God never put one adulterer to death, in fact he pardoned them. Take the following three examples:

a) David the guy who slaid Goliath had sex with another mans wife, David then even had the guy killed to cover up the fact that Uriah did not have sex with his wife. Yet the prophet of God who God sent to tell David off, a man who knew God's character and had conversations with God, let him live, and did not ask any one to kill him. The prophet did not agree with his sin, in fact he said God would curse him for a time for it.

b) Jesus pardoned a woman caught in the act of adultery, saying to the angry mob about to stone her to death, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Joh 8:7 only saying to her when they all left "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

c) Joseph was called "righteous", or good by the apostles because he refused to have his girlfriend put to death (made a public example) when it was found out she was pregnant. And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily.. Mat 1:19

So we can see clearly God never put an adulterer to death