All Hail the Second Amendment

[KUSA]

Your president obviously agrees with this statement. Look at all the guns protecting him.

Wait...where do you live?

This really isn't a good rebuttal to MindForgedManacle's observation. Pointing out what one person decides to do for their protection (which is something Obama actually doesn't decide for himself) in no way negates the fact that gun fights get people on both sides killed. He was pointing out the flaw in a fallacious piece of rhetoric, and you have yet to properly address it without appealing to equally fallacious Strawmen. Why do you keep doing this on this thread, KUSA?

What strawman? It seems like every liberal celebrity that hates guns is surrounded by them by choice. You say the president has no choice in this well what if he did? Do you think he would say no to having guns protecting him? Fuck no he wouldn't. He would be a fool not to want them.

You are correct in saying that a gunfight tends to have casualties on both sides. The question is am I better off having one myself? Hell yea I am. It irritates me that so many people that choose not to have a gun want to strip me of mine.

Molon labe.

[Bad Writer]

You're right. Obama had a choice. He chose to be president. With that choice comes the Secret Service detail, 24/7.

Also, no one wants to strip you of your guns. Are you a law-abiding citizen? If your answer is "yes" then you can own a gun.

Thank you for admitting that guns cause casualties on both sides. Can you also admit that bringing up Obama's gun detail is a little bit misplaced in discussing this? (That was the strawman.)

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EDIT: He chose to run for president.

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I have to apologize. Obama as president has no choice but to allow the Secret Service detail into every facet of his day-to-day activities, and your argument that he has no choice in the matter is not just fallacious as a strawman for being something you should know isn't necessarily true, but you presented MMM with a nice red herring too in order to direct attention away from the originally proposed issue of gun violence between good guys and bad guys. Why are you so on edge about all this, KUSA?

[Brakeman]

[KUSA]

Also, no one wants to strip you of your guns.

There are a lot of people that want to including Minimalist. Just ask him I'm sure he'd admit it.

Can you also admit that bringing up Obama's gun detail is a little bit misplaced in discussing this? (That was the strawman.)

It wasn't misplaced. It shows how guns protect people. It doesn't matter if you are the potus or an average citizen.

Why are you so on edge about all this, KUSA?

Because gun grabbers irritate me.

[Bad Writer]

I think Min is simply on the side that wants to ban all privately owned guns. If an item becomes illegal because of the enactment of a law, it's not gun-grabbing, per se. You could always illegally hold on to it

So, I think what's the reality here is that no one wants to take your gun, but there are plenty that want to make it harder for you to own one. I think both sides are justified in their thinking; people feel they need them for protection and crime deterrent, and others see their domestic dangers and work towards minimizing the risks.

[Minimalist]

[Brakeman]

A northeast Ohio man shot and killed a woman he hired to work on his farm after mistaking her for a groundhog.

Why in the world did he want to kill a groundhog so badly he shot at one through the grasses without direct identification?

Why do "hunters" feel the "need" to kill something so much?

Personally I think the old man was crazy right there and shouldn't have been allowed a sharp stick. He wasn't going to eat a groundhog.

[Chas]

A northeast Ohio man shot and killed a woman he hired to work on his farm after mistaking her for a groundhog.

Why in the world did he want to kill a groundhog so badly he shot at one through the grasses without direct identification?

Why do "hunters" feel the "need" to kill something so much?

Personally I think the old man was crazy right there and shouldn't have been allowed a sharp stick. He wasn't going to eat a groundhog.

Groundhogs damage crops and structures. Farmers kill them.

[Minimalist]

[Minimalist]