(January 22, 2013 at 8:53 am)Stue Denim Wrote: Switzerland meets those criteria, no?
Yes and no. The different states vary so much from each other that it is hard for them to work to getter at times.
Every state would require a similar model
Instead, one state has more direct, the other less direct democracy.
Some are completly weird.
There are states in Swizerland in which church and states arent seperated.
There has to be a commmon concept, not like one constitution on which every single state constitution should copy, but at least some common agreement that everything isnt simply thrown arround wildly like in Swizerland
Quote:So you disagree with the left financially, with the conservatives on social policies.... see where I'm going with this?
Yes but I disagree with liberterians on social issues and partialy on economic Issues.
Quote:Odd use of the word 'can'. Did you mean that libertarians would be unable to deliver what little they promise to deliver (you'll find a fair number of libertarians still in favour of basic infrastructure government spending, and libertarian parties, such as the Australian LDP are in favour of 'flat' taxes with a negative income tax, essentially the really poor are just given some money, rather than it being filtered through vast bureaucracies and politicised charities)? Or that the free market will be unable to?
edit: I'll post on pragmatism after the last two lines are cleared up.
Not capable of providing roads, bridges, raillines, healthcare, social network, wealfare network .....
I also believe that buisness should have influence in the goverment.
And I am in support of unions as long as there is the requirement for payscale contracts with buisnesses and not fixed by law.
As far as I understood, the liberterian solution is to let everything for grabs to the free market, and I pointed out what they are unable to provide.
Quote:Wouldn't expect anything less. Part of the reason you're so successful no doubt. I just mean that If I lived there I'd get every cent I had out (and not into swiss franc's either due to the peg, just into switzerland, untouchable by not just the german government, but all the european countries demanding a bailout), so I'm surprised the number was only 3 billion.
By the low taxrate Germany has on buisnesses (one of the lowest in Europe) it is rather weird to argue that this small rate should be protected from "an evil goverment".
We have one of the most transparent goverments in the world, every single citizen can acces and overlook every single cent spent (except for defence).
The bailout, was so far only paied for greece, and I am one of the few who believes that it could still work. At least in Spain and Portugal.
Greece might be damned.
