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Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
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RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
Answering to Thomas Paine's Age of Reason:
http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/m...paine.html

I posted that, just in case we are indeed having other people 'think' for us.
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#12
RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
Quote:As if this isn't enough evidence, there's another instance whithin Genesis that reveals it was written centuries after Moses' time. This comes from Genesis 36:31 which says "and these are the kings which reigned in Edom, before there reigned any king over the children of Israel" which, for it to make sense, must necessarily have been written after at least one king reigned Israel.
It's only necessary from an a priori naturalist viewpoint. Without that, the reference to future kings of Israel is explained as prophecy. Deut 17, also in the books of Moses, says outright that Israel will one day have a king.
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#13
Re: RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
(January 28, 2013 at 9:58 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I believe it is on these grounds that the Christian thinks they hold a rational belief in the Bible. They believe that the documents which make up the Bible hold authority because of who wrote them
Incorrect. We believe that they hold authority because of what they say. Because what they say combines to produce a whole that computes.
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#14
RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
What they say produces a whole that contradicts itself over and over.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
(January 28, 2013 at 1:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Incorrect. We believe that they hold authority because of what they say. Because what they say combines to produce a whole that computes.

Why do you not think that the Hindu vedas hold authority? Is it because you weren't born in India? Thinking
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#16
RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
Quote:A god that had to DROWN virtually all his creations because of problems - cannot be perfect.

Especially after looking things over and pronouncing everything just fucking wonderful!

Gen 1. 31 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good.

Apparently this loser god didn't even know that he had already fucked it all up?

Even the Greco-Romans had a higher standard of what a "god" should be.

Quote:"God does not inflict correction on the world as if he were some unskilled laborer who is incapable of building something properly the first time around; God has no need to purify what he has built by means of a flood or a conflagration (as they teach)."

Celsus c 180 AD
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#17
RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
(January 28, 2013 at 2:48 pm)Zone Wrote: Why do you not think that the Hindu vedas hold authority? Is it because you weren't born in India? Thinking
Probably not...but he probably wasn't born in israel, either. Wink Shades
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Re: RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
(January 28, 2013 at 2:48 pm)Zone Wrote: Why do you not think that the Hindu vedas hold authority? Is it because you weren't born in India? Thinking
I was born in the west. Microsoft holds authority Wink (2nd to atheism of course)
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RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
(January 28, 2013 at 3:44 pm)John V Wrote: Probably not...but he probably wasn't born in israel, either. Wink Shades

He would probably be either Jewish or a Muslim if he had been. So he would then take the Torah or Quran on the authority of what they say. It's not like Jesus said there are many paths to God either he supposedly said "No one can come to the Father except through me". So we can conclude that if Christianity is true then God really does care very much about where people are born. In Gods ultimate plan for mankinds salvation from our sins he must have had the white majority wealthy Western nations more in mind than say Arabs, Indians, Asians or semi-naked uncontacted Amazon Indian tribes people. He had people born in south America and half of Africa in mind as well but it seems a bit like a game of lucky dip to me.
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RE: Proof That the Bible Isn't the Word of God
(January 28, 2013 at 4:15 pm)Zone Wrote: He would probably be either Jewish or a Muslim if he had been. So he would then take the Torah or Quran on the authority of what they say. It's not like Jesus said there are many paths to God either he supposedly said "No one can come to the Father except through me". So we can conclude that if Christianity is true then God really does care very much about where people are born. In Gods ultimate plan for mankinds salvation from our sins he must have had the white majority wealthy Western nations more in mind than say Arabs, Indians, Asians or semi-naked uncontacted Amazon Indian tribes people. He had people born in south America and half of Africa in mind as well but it seems a bit like a game of lucky dip to me.
Let's see...you say religious belief is generally based on where you're born...Jesus lived and died in the Middle East...yet you conclude that god had Western nations in mind. Curious logic.Thinking
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