free will paradox

[justin]

Frodo how do you know he isn't a physical being? And wait what about the whole idk......jesus thing? Isn't he a intervening god? So he is active in the physical world. And you believe in a god without evidence? Gotcha

[Something completely different]

Dude we should totaly hang out together!

Have you ever been to the Netherlands?

[justin]

No but always wanted to plus germans can put back some beer i hear haha i'm all in

[fr0d0]

He may have the impression of free will, but his course is already set. His lack of knowing does not change the fact.

So let's assume this hypothetical person is you. Do you have a choice to reply to this post or not? Or... Does the fact that God already knows what you're going to do alter the fact that you have complete full choice in it, you predictable sod?

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Frodo how do you know he isn't a physical being? And wait what about the whole idk......jesus thing? Isn't he a intervening god? So he is active in the physical world. And you believe in a god without evidence? Gotcha

Goods catch Bro!

It's kinda established that God is non physical. Our resident Muslim will be along in a bit to fit that bit of your indoctrination. After he's seen to the cats.
God did become human for a bit, yeah. So you should see some physical evidence of that. Funny though... said God bloke could no more convince people to their faces that he was God then. Because he was bound by his own silly rule then too! That is: no physical evidence dudes!

And yeah... He's intervening. So there should be physical evidence of that on our reality right?
Wrong This reality and whatever happens in it is fully God, given the belief in God, and fully not God, given not God. You should be happy as that let's you of the hook. Free pass to the next level. Thank you for playing.

[justin]

So gods rules over rule god? i'm mean you're saying he can't even prove himself because he made it to where he couldn't wtf? Wow.....and you've mistaken me for some who gives a shit about muslim and cats. Cause i don't. And oh thank you oh merciful for letting me off the hook, but i'm afraid i'll have to ask to please explain this last statement to me, in detail. So far i grasped god isn't part of this physical reality then he is the physical reality if you just believe, then he is back not being in this physical reality when you don't believe. Where am i mistaken oh wise one.

[fr0d0]

Where am i mistaken oh wise one.

No where. Congratulations! You have won today's mystery prize! (pm a member of staff to collect it)

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

"Will paradox" is an odd name for a whale.

[justin]

"Will paradox" is an odd name for a whale.

what?

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Where am i mistaken oh wise one.

No where. Congratulations! You have won today's mystery prize! (pm a member of staff to collect it)

i have three laws for you
law of non contradictions
low of excluded middle
law of idenity
you`ve broken all three
i collected my prize it was logic something youy should use.......

[fr0d0]

"Will paradox" is an odd name for a whale.

what?

Free will[y] dumbo

[naimless]

It is a funny thing. If you believe in free will you have it.

If you don't, you don't.

It is similar to god in many ways.

Please consider this, OP:

Imagine yourself (justin) and your debater (fr0d0) both meet, and that you are both skilled and proficient at inducing an hypnotic state in each other.

To avoid further verbal bloodshed I'll refer to you both as simply, "A" and "B".

To begin with A induces an hypnotic state in B. As a result, B will be completely subject to the will of A. Even so, B does not experience any lack of free will, nor that he is acting under the will of A.

So maybe, despite having no free will whatsoever it is still possible to be under the illusion you do have free will?

Now for the second part of the experiment, A instructs B to induce a hypnotic state in him (in A that is).

So now A is under the will of B and B under the will of A!

How can that be? Both are exerting their will on each other but neither has free will.